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Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:09
by Aketzali
[TAB HOLD] .......... Boost Speed to max

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:12
by apricotslice
Aketzali wrote:[TAB HOLD] .......... Boost Speed to max
Are you using a joystick with a throttle ? If so, what is the throttle set at ?

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:16
by Aketzali
Just keyboard and mouse.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:20
by apricotslice
Aketzali wrote:Just keyboard and mouse.
I'll follow it up then. Thanks.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:30
by TBV
Apricotslice wrote
Why do you do that ?
I imagine it's because when you fly through a gate manually, your
speed is very low when you emerge on the other side regardless of
your entry speed. So if you have a boost extension you hit tab.[/quote]

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:35
by apricotslice
TAB-HOLD coming through a gate.

I've had some PM feedback.

What happens as you hit the TAB-HOLD key, is that the camera actually pulls back on the ship view as you do it.

If the ship is very close to the gate, the camera view itself triggers the jump. Or somthing like this.

It is a bug, but a pretty minor one thats difficult to fix.

best solution is dont use TAB after jumping through a gate, add some speed first and then TAB after you get away.

Its like hitting the AP after a jump. The damn thing will imediately splat you into the gate wall. Its not something thats going to be fixed, so its something you just make sure you dont do, instead putting some speed on first before hitting the AP.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:48
by jlehtone
apricotslice wrote:What happens as you hit the TAB-HOLD key, is that the camera actually pulls back on the ship view as you do it.
Back in X2 you even saw that effect of boosting, the cockpit (and space) seemed to stretch.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 13:57
by jlehtone
Bonuspack 3.1.01 now includes a script that rebuilds the Tractor Beam Forge.

If I could read german ... their message has "Bala Gi 2.0" in the same sentence.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 18:48
by Graaf
It is a known issue that you jump back if you hit [TAB] right after emersing from a gate. It also happened in X2. Just wait a sec or hit [x] first, and the problem is gone.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 19:03
by Nanook
moggy2 wrote:
Nanook wrote:Plot Ore Mine won't trade with Free Traders:

The ore mine you 'buy' in the plot doesn't trade with any free traders, neither buyers nor sellers. You have to give it your own buyers and sellers. And this applies to complexes made with that mine. I put it in a complex with a SQUASH mine factory and a Soyery, hoping to free up some of the buying/selling ships. The NPC traders refused to buy the SQUASH mines, and they refused to sell it energy or soja beans, despite drastically reducing/increasing prices appropriately. It appears that the 'Trade with other races' is permanently set to 'NO'. Either that, or it was made somehow 'invisible' to the NPC's to protect it when your Paranid rep was so low, and didn't get reset to normal. Either way, it doesn't work properly.
Not true someone was trading with mine before I'd finished the plot, and it wasn't any of my ships (no UT's, no ships assigned to the station, no ship's selling energy within range) I think it's ore mines in general don't seem to get many visitors. I have one in Ore belt that nobody visits.
Are you running any scripts? The only changes in my game are the Less 'Roids and the No Fog mods. No external scripts at all. I let my mine run for a couple of game days from the time I finished the plot and no one would sell it energy. I then supplied an e-cell buyer, and still no one would buy my ore. As soon as I gave it a seller, it couldn't keep ore in stock. There were lots of stations within the 2 jump range that were in need of ore. And as I said, I made a SQUASH mine complex out of it, and subsequently couldn't sell a single mine without a seller. This despite there being several Paranid trading stations nearby that were empty of SQUASH mines. So you're saying both SQUASH mines AND ore don't attract NPC traders? That sounds like a bug, or at least a design flaw, right there. :?

And just so you know, I'm not the only one who's reported this behaviour. There were quite a number of players who have had similar experiences and this was documented in another thread. And I don't think there was a single player that had a counter example. Yours is the first. So maybe there's something different about your game.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 19:12
by Nanook
apricotslice wrote:TAB-HOLD coming through a gate.

I've had some PM feedback.

What happens as you hit the TAB-HOLD key, is that the camera actually pulls back on the ship view as you do it.

If the ship is very close to the gate, the camera view itself triggers the jump. Or somthing like this.

It is a bug, but a pretty minor one thats difficult to fix.

best solution is dont use TAB after jumping through a gate, add some speed first and then TAB after you get away.

Its like hitting the AP after a jump. The damn thing will imediately splat you into the gate wall. Its not something thats going to be fixed, so its something you just make sure you dont do, instead putting some speed on first before hitting the AP.
Easy to fix. Just get rid of that silly 'boost stretch' animation. Looks dumb anyway, IMO. It's just a holdover from way back in X-BTF when you actually could accelerate way past the ships normal max speed. :roll:

And I always boost my ships, whatever class, just to get out of the way of any incoming ships. I've been struck from behind a number of times by NPC freighters that exited the gate at the same exact point as me. So 'abstinence' isn't really the best policy. :P :lol:

Teladi Buzzard class bug???

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 20:24
by BlakesSeven
This is a strange one....

Occasionally, when I am in my Teladi Buzzard (or similarly fast class of ship) & travelling through a Gate, once I emerge on the other side & press for full speed (using the boost button), the ship goes back through the Gate (without me touching the steering controls to head back for the Gate) to the original Sector :evil:

Anybody else ever noticed this :?

(Just realised that Aketzali has already put this on this thread - sorry :o )

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 21:57
by moggy2
has anyone mentioned that the police patrols aren't scanning other ships like they should because the following script command doesn't work

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110           if [THIS] -> scan potential pirate $target for illegal wares

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 22:29
by Geggo
moggy2 wrote:has anyone mentioned that the police patrols aren't scanning other ships like they should because the following script command doesn't work

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110           if [THIS] -> scan potential pirate $target for illegal wares
I don't think it's even wise to fix that one, I can just see half the galaxy going up in flames second that one is working.

Lets just pretend that all our pilots are super smuglers instead.

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 22:45
by Nanook
Geggo wrote:
moggy2 wrote:has anyone mentioned that the police patrols aren't scanning other ships like they should because the following script command doesn't work

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110           if [THIS] -> scan potential pirate $target for illegal wares
I don't think it's even wise to fix that one, I can just see half the galaxy going up in flames second that one is working.

Lets just pretend that all our pilots are super smuglers instead.
I've got mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, it would be cool to have a small element of danger for having your pilots deal in illegal goods. On the other hand, I don't want the NPC cops to shoot up all the NPC smugglers, either. That's my job. :wink: :wink: :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 22:54
by Colonelnj10
if you want to kill off smugglers yourself, get in line

Posted: Tue, 29. Aug 06, 23:45
by iridian
Is it normal that the Yaki do not appear as a «race» to me ?
they are simply blue - not in the race list (foe / friendly) and they only turn red when I scan them and find «something» wich is quite randon - eg. 2 ships with same loadout- only 1 of them turns red...
after I attack the red (yaki pirate) the rest turns red on me too...
but every time I re enter the sector , they are blue again

Yes I did finished the plot

There are also some ships I cannot enter/ comunicate to
Eg. Mercury (speed 0... nothing happening) in the sector of the Marauder
The Soul... thing ship (goner) wich has stopped moving in ore belt
and I guess there is a duplicate of it flying in and out argon prime (confuses the hell out of me)


BTW; when you get this pirate smuggler (in a TS class vessel to drop all of his freight.. AND BAIL OUT) and you get him to collect all wares in the sector (the stuff he dropped - by transporting a special comm soft. to his ship) then all of the stuff wont fit in his cargo bay becouse all upgrades are *destroyed ???*

quite lame if you ask me

thx in advance

and sorry if it was posted somewhere but I looked here and in this topic (front pages, didnt read all the replys after that)

Posted: Wed, 30. Aug 06, 00:33
by Mophus
Well, this isn't exactly a "gameplay" bug (it's more of an interface bug), but it seems Egosoft has some problems acknowledging it (I've posted in the forum, contcted them by e-mail, other players have reproduced it, etc.).

- Mophus

Posted: Wed, 30. Aug 06, 02:32
by apricotslice
Mophus wrote:Well, this isn't exactly a "gameplay" bug (it's more of an interface bug), but it seems Egosoft has some problems acknowledging it (I've posted in the forum, contcted them by e-mail, other players have reproduced it, etc.).
Reply put in that thread. I'm not able to reproduce that as I dont have that complicated a joystick.

Edit : It isnt a gameplay issue as such, and your tech support thread is the appropriate way to report it. You did get a Egosoft response pretty quickly, which surprised me. So either the problem isnt gereatable by anyone there, or its something that cannot be fixed. Be nice if they said so, but most of the time they dont.

Posted: Wed, 30. Aug 06, 07:00
by apricotslice
The submission to Tech Support is now available for final comments.
http://circleofatlantis.com/X3forum/vie ... hp?p=83#83

If there is no further comment or additions, I'll post it in tech support tomorrow.