Terran plot not progressing

[Betelgeuse97]

I'm at the stage where I have to defend Brennan's Triumph delta. I've killed and boarded/captured EVERY Argon/Boron/Teladi ship in the map, but the plot still doesn't progress. It also didn't build a TOA to Brennan's Triumph alpha, so I had to use the HUB to get in.

Am I missing anything else?

[Wou]

edit, not the same place, I'm stuck even earlier, in BT alpha
Maru just hangs out in the sector with his M2 buddy, I'm supposed to defend it but there's no one to defend it from and there's no accelerator in sight.
Maybe it is because I started the plot before I build an accelerator of my own (should this even be possible?), but since then I managed to get all those chips and quantum tubes and so on and got mylself one, and then plenty of time passed and still nothing.

[Deianeira]

edit, not the same place, I'm stuck even earlier, in BT alpha
Maru just hangs out in the sector with his M2 buddy, I'm supposed to defend it but there's no one to defend it from and there's no accelerator in sight.
Maybe it is because I started the plot before I build an accelerator of my own (should this even be possible?), but since then I managed to get all those chips and quantum tubes and so on and got mylself one, and then plenty of time passed and still nothing.

Just get close to the Maru (<10km) to trigger the escort mission, i.e. a few Boron/Argon/Teladi M3s and a Centaur or Hydra spawn. The Maru then sets a course to the Orbital defence station in BT delta. You don't have to kill the attackers yourself, as they are either no match for the Maru or get outrun by her...

[Deianeira]

I'm at the stage where I have to defend Brennan's Triumph delta. I've killed and boarded/captured EVERY Argon/Boron/Teladi ship in the map, but the plot still doesn't progress. It also didn't build a TOA to Brennan's Triumph alpha, so I had to use the HUB to get in.

Am I missing anything else?

The attackers (Rays and Titans mainly) sometimes wander to BT alpha to attack the invincible Kyoto or even the pirate base. However you only have to kill all the M3/4s to finish the mission and get the achievement.

[Wou]

edit, not the same place, I'm stuck even earlier, in BT alpha
Maru just hangs out in the sector with his M2 buddy, I'm supposed to defend it but there's no one to defend it from and there's no accelerator in sight.
Maybe it is because I started the plot before I build an accelerator of my own (should this even be possible?), but since then I managed to get all those chips and quantum tubes and so on and got mylself one, and then plenty of time passed and still nothing.

Just get close to the Maru (<10km) to trigger the escort mission, i.e. a few Boron/Argon/Teladi M3s and a Centaur or Hydra spawn. The Maru then sets a course to the Orbital defence station in BT delta. You don't have to kill the attackers yourself, as the Maru is invincible anyways

Thanks, but the M3s and M6s are long gone. And yeah the Maru killed them on its own. But now it just "idles" at half speed around the sector, and was doing so for ages now.
I tried getting it hostile to follow me and then luring it near near the access point to delta hoping that something will trigger, but no luck.

I also tried to lure a pirate next to it, so they fight for a while and then I can actually protect it and maybe the end of combat would trigger something - nope, not that either.

[Betelgeuse97]

I'm at the stage where I have to defend Brennan's Triumph delta. I've killed and boarded/captured EVERY Argon/Boron/Teladi ship in the map, but the plot still doesn't progress. It also didn't build a TOA to Brennan's Triumph alpha, so I had to use the HUB to get in.

Am I missing anything else?

The attackers (Rays and Titans mainly) sometimes wander to BT alpha to attack the invincible Kyoto or even the pirate base. However you only have to kill all the M3/4s to finish the mission and get the achievement.

I captured a few of those M3 and M4. Do I have to kill them to progress?

EDIT: I just tried recycling and REing them in the HQ. No dice, and I've checked BT alpha and delta (and the hub, as I connected the hub to BT delta). No ships left.

[Betelgeuse97]

edit, not the same place, I'm stuck even earlier, in BT alpha
Maru just hangs out in the sector with his M2 buddy, I'm supposed to defend it but there's no one to defend it from and there's no accelerator in sight.
Maybe it is because I started the plot before I build an accelerator of my own (should this even be possible?), but since then I managed to get all those chips and quantum tubes and so on and got mylself one, and then plenty of time passed and still nothing.

Just get close to the Maru (<10km) to trigger the escort mission, i.e. a few Boron/Argon/Teladi M3s and a Centaur or Hydra spawn. The Maru then sets a course to the Orbital defence station in BT delta. You don't have to kill the attackers yourself, as the Maru is invincible anyways

Thanks, but the M3s and M6s are long gone. And yeah the Maru killed them on its own. But now it just "idles" at half speed around the sector, and was doing so for ages now.
I tried getting it hostile to follow me and then luring it near near the access point to delta hoping that something will trigger, but no luck.

I also tried to lure a pirate next to it, so they fight for a while and then I can actually protect it and maybe the end of combat would trigger something - nope, not that either.

Connecting the hub between Neptune and BT delta should give a valid route for the Maru to fly to BT delta. Looks like the Terran plot isn't completely fixed yet.

[Deianeira]

Well there's normally only one route from BT alpha to delta, namely through the TOA. If there is no TOA in your game, which is built as part of the first few missions in this plot, then I have no clue how you even reached the Neptune gate to connect to the Hub

You can however just play on, the plot should finish eventually by itself with "mission failed, see you around in terran space"

[Wou]

Well there's normally only one route from BT alpha to delta, namely through the TOA. If there is no TOA in your game, which is built as part of the first few missions in this plot, then I have no clue how you even reached the Neptune gate to connect to the Hub

You can however just play on, the plot should finish eventually by itself with "mission failed, see you around in terran space"

I can get to Terran space via an access point. Apparently Maru canot? Will give it a try.

And if the mission were to fail I think it'd happen by now. It was soooo long.

edit: Well I'll be damned, it does seem to work, Maru had left BT alpha and now it looks like its on a journey to reach the Hub. Thanks so much Betelgeuse97

[Deianeira]

Well there's normally only one route from BT alpha to delta, namely through the TOA. If there is no TOA in your game, which is built as part of the first few missions in this plot, then I have no clue how you even reached the Neptune gate to connect to the Hub

You can however just play on, the plot should finish eventually by itself with "mission failed, see you around in terran space"

I can get to Terran space via an access point. Apparently Maru canot? Will give it a try.

And if the mission were to fail I think it'd happen by now. It was soooo long.

edit: Well I'll be damned, it does seem to work, Maru had left BT alpha and now it looks like its on a journey to reach the Hub. Thanks so much Betelgeuse97

Okay, that's your problem right there. You should have never been able to use this access point, because the still incognito terrans deactivate your interplanetary drive after deploying the three beacons. You then have to deliver wares to the Mammoth to build the TOA. When the TOA is built, you're greeted by the terran revelation and the Kyoto destroyer encourages you to deliver more wares to build the orbital defence station. This part you both did...

[Betelgeuse97]

Well there's normally only one route from BT alpha to delta, namely through the TOA. If there is no TOA in your game, which is built as part of the first few missions in this plot, then I have no clue how you even reached the Neptune gate to connect to the Hub

You can however just play on, the plot should finish eventually by itself with "mission failed, see you around in terran space"

I can get to Terran space via an access point. Apparently Maru canot? Will give it a try.

And if the mission were to fail I think it'd happen by now. It was soooo long.

edit: Well I'll be damned, it does seem to work, Maru had left BT alpha and now it looks like its on a journey to reach the Hub. Thanks so much Betelgeuse97

Okay, that's your problem right there. You should have never been able to use this access point, because the still incognito terrans deactivate your interplanetary drive after deploying the three beacons. You then have to deliver wares to the Mammoth to build the TOA. When the TOA is built, you're greeted by the terran revelation and the Kyoto destroyer encourages you to deliver more wares to build the orbital defence station. This part you both did...

Yes, but in my case (back in 1.0 release), the TOA was not built. I finished the delivery before the TL reached the HSAP. I'm thinking of replaying the plot when it's fixed, or could be because I played on 1.0 and should be on a newer game.

[Deianeira]

Then I have good news for you: the final patch for X3FL released a few days ago, you can expect that everything is fixed now you're SOL

[Wou]

Okay, that's your problem right there. You should have never been able to use this access point, because the still incognito terrans deactivate your interplanetary drive after deploying the three beacons. You then have to deliver wares to the Mammoth to build the TOA. When the TOA is built, you're greeted by the terran revelation and the Kyoto destroyer encourages you to deliver more wares to build the orbital defence station. This part you both did...

Well, after I did the delivery I was told that "it will take some time", so I left. I did the delivery in BT alpha (but before I had build my first TOA which may be a culprit here?)
The second I jumped to another sector I got a message to go back immediately and to protect the Maru. Maru turned out to be immortal and able to handle on it's own but ever since for a long long time It just flew around the sector doing nothing. There was no TOA, but after I made the delivery my interplanetary drive got reactivated so I was able to use the access point.
Even after I finally gathered all the stuff and build the damn TOA nothing changed, till as per suggestion above I used the HUB to make an alternative route.

..so the TOA should be built before I'm asked to defend the Maru? Is my well over hundred hours save borked for good and there never will be one?

[Deianeira]

No, there won't ever be a TOA in that case. Shouldn't matter though with the hub trick. Once the Maru docks at the defence station, you've de facto finished the plot. Just talk to the guy there and leave system to get the ship. You can reload a few times to get different marines

You could also start a new game and try to help the Argons instead this time around...

[phantomrock2]

and see I had this same issue
(but) there were numerous teladi M2s afterwards that for reasons both unaware and a-ware to me lingered in BT Delta and this interfered with station building missions
So i took it upon myself to take them out with Wraith missile fire which destroyed teladi race-rank title and, wait for it, I still got the rather cold response that I just a-bout did not contribute to the effort
Now what bothers me is all the commonwealth traffic that seems to think its a cool idea to come across BT Delta to where ever they are going and when getting in-to the massive Kyoto M2 to alleviate this in the surrounding sectors I run the risk of lowering notoriety with the Terran
So why dont the Terran come out of the Sol System en masse from time to time and not just fly a-round in the Sol System
every other race leaves and tries to enter the Sol System

[Wou]

No, there won't ever be a TOA in that case. Shouldn't matter though with the hub trick. Once the Maru docks at the defence station, you've de facto finished the plot. Just talk to the guy there and leave system to get the ship. You can reload a few times to get different marines

You could also start a new game and try to help the Argons instead this time around...

Damn, this sucks. Don't really want to sacrifice a set of hub gates to be able to reach Terrans, doesn't really fit into my business model. But thanks for the answers!

[Hwitvlf]

I think I've run into a problem in this plot also. I got to the "Protect the Heavy Load Transporter" section of the Beyond the Frontier and escorted the Mammoth to Brennan's Alpha. The Pirates built a TOA before it arrived in the sector and now the Mammoth just parked doing nothing. Any suggestions to progress things?

[Artificial]

and see I had this same issue
So i took it upon myself to take them out with Wraith missile fire which destroyed teladi race-rank title and, wait for it, I still got the rather cold response that I just a-bout did not contribute to the effort
Now what bothers me is all the commonwealth traffic that seems to think its a cool idea to come across BT Delta to where ever they are going and when getting in-to the massive Kyoto M2 to alleviate this in the surrounding sectors I run the risk of lowering notoriety with the Terran
So why dont the Terran come out of the Sol System en masse from time to time and not just fly a-round in the Sol System
every other race leaves and tries to enter the Sol System

For me I choosed commonvealth side and failed "eliminate terrans" mission (because even when I captured some M6s, I was unable to do anything with that many terran M2+ - now I have fleet of few Kyotos + pair of Aegir + bunch of Vidar drifting in Brennan's Triumph alpha that kills everything in it except lonely pirate base and teladi ships. They doing literally nothing else, and it's quite dissapointing - no even commonvealth tries to emulate fights with them.