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[6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sat, 18. Mar 23, 21:35
by alt3rn1ty
Heres a save https://www.dropbox.com/s/df8f95gt47xs8 ... ml.gz?dl=0

I'm currently Terraforming in Memory of Profit IX
I keep getting a Global Warming event, but there are only two of the three requisites for this to happen .. I thought we would need all three to be true for this to happen.

Screenshot - Carbon Dioxide ticked, Temperature ticked .. But why is Methane still ticked, and why is the event even happening ??
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Screenshot - I have previously used Oxidize Methane to bring that down which succeeded, and am currently building up to Mineralize Carbon and get rid of the bit I have
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.. But the thing is should this Global Warming still be happening if one of its prerequisites Methane has already been eradicated ?.

Re: [6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sat, 18. Mar 23, 22:00
by alt3rn1ty
Just one more thought on this ..

If its not a case of clearing just one of the event pre-requisites, and we have to clear ALL of them ..

Then how do we solve the Temperature ?, the range of that pre-requisite is ANY temperature, so its impossible to clear.
.. Or, if that pre-requisite actually means you have to have achieved the maximum temperature to trigger this event .. I have never had this planets temperature above what it currently is (look at the top information panels of the first screenshot).

Re: [6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sun, 19. Mar 23, 00:54
by Imperial Good
Methane is ticked because that form of global warming can only happen when there is no methane and carbon dioxide is present. Hence why it shows no bars next to methane, since it wants no methane to be able to happen.

This check for no methane is required otherwise in the presence of both methane and carbon dioxide there would be 2 different global warmings happening at the same time, one for methane and the other for carbon dioxide. Thanks to the check the methane global warming will take priority over the carbon dioxide global warming.

The global warming you have is due to carbon dioxide. You will need to lower carbon dioxide to stop that sort of global warming. This is best done by plants and farm because it both raises oxygen and lowers carbon dioxide. If you already built the farms then you will need to use the more expensive carbon dioxide capture projects.

Re: [6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sun, 19. Mar 23, 03:27
by alt3rn1ty
Imperial Good wrote:
Sun, 19. Mar 23, 00:54
Methane is ticked because that form of global warming can only happen when there is no methane and carbon dioxide is present. Hence why it shows no bars next to methane, since it wants no methane to be able to happen.
This check for no methane is required otherwise in the presence of both methane and carbon dioxide there would be 2 different global warmings happening at the same time, one for methane and the other for carbon dioxide. Thanks to the check the methane global warming will take priority over the carbon dioxide global warming.

The global warming you have is due to carbon dioxide. You will need to lower carbon dioxide to stop that sort of global warming. This is best done by plants and farm because it both raises oxygen and lowers carbon dioxide. If you already built the farms then you will need to use the more expensive carbon dioxide capture projects.
Ok so even though I brought down the Methane I also had a problem with Carbon Dioxide, and so need to reduce both to stop the Global warming.
For us none scientists this game keeps you learning something new every day :)

Yep, Forestation and Sunrise flowers already done, Carbon Dioxide capture projects are in progress.
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Apologies for my lack of understanding in this department, I think the topic can be marked WAI

Re: [6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sun, 19. Mar 23, 14:49
by Imperial Good
To prevent such confusion maybe the global warming projects should be given different names? Like adding "major" for methane and "minor" for carbon dioxide to reflect how much of a green house gas they are.

Re: [6.0 Beta 6] Terraforming - Global warming bug ?

Posted: Sun, 19. Mar 23, 17:23
by alt3rn1ty
For me what would make it clearer would be for this event to just include Carbon Dioxide and Methane under Conditions:, and have temperature under Effect:

Global warming
Description

Conditions :
Carbon Dioxide
Methane

Effect :
Temperature

Then it becomes more obvious that you just need to solve the conditions, and Temperature is the by-product of the event.