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Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Wed, 23. Jun 21, 12:39

Hi, just a little thing about the Argon/terran plot.

If you get them at war with each other are they guild missions that appear for one side or another like for Zya/Arg guild ?

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by LandogarX4 » Wed, 23. Jun 21, 14:42

The answer is no.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 12:27

Ok thanks. :)

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by strask412 » Sat, 26. Jun 21, 02:40

The feature has been requested before to have guild mission chains for the various combinations of wars you can start, but it's unknown if that feature will be added.
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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Sat, 26. Jun 21, 12:16

And changing other factions also removes missions.

Uniting the HoP and Par removes war missions for both HoP and ARG towards each other, and also removes HoP v PAR war missions from both sides because they're now united.

Siding with CUB against ZYA will remove ARG v ZYA war missions, but will still provide RHA v ARG war missions.

No new missions are gained either for any storyline changes you make through plot missions.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Sat, 26. Jun 21, 20:50

Siding with CUB against ZYA will remove ARG v ZYA war missions, but will still provide RHA v ARG war missions.
Mmh, ZYA have only ZYA vs ARG missions not the opposite as i saw. So Rha vs ARG would be the exact same thing only with a different name. Or did i missed something ? :gruebel:

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Sat, 26. Jun 21, 22:18

You start with ZYA V ARG, and ARG V ZYA. If you turn ZYA into RHA, RHA still offers missions against ARG, but ARG no longer offers missions against any Split faction.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 09:42

ZYA vs ARG ok. But ARG VS ZYA where did you got it ? I'm 20+ rep with the two factions and never got anything but ZYA vs ARG.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 10:16

bof111 wrote:
Sun, 27. Jun 21, 09:42
ZYA vs ARG ok. But ARG VS ZYA where did you got it ? I'm 20+ rep with the two factions and never got anything but ZYA vs ARG.
There is a mission to go talk to a rep for Argon, once you talk to him you can get ARG v ZYA war missions.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 12:40

Huh ? :o Never got that. Can you detail the conditions ?

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 16:14

bof111 wrote:
Sun, 27. Jun 21, 12:40
Huh ? :o Never got that. Can you detail the conditions ?
It should pop up automatically once you reach a certain rank. I remembee seeing it somewhere in the mission tab. It might be on the same station as the faction rep, look for a room called "war room", and that will have the person available to start taking those quests i believe... ill see if i can find it tomorrow after work, i know i have it active on one of my gamestarts.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 21:38

I tested for 2 hours today on fresh start 4.0(last hf) and tried different situations and nothing pops up at rep 10+ neither with ARG or ZYA. (even searched elven hour if it was linked to something there.) The only explanation i see is that 4.0 removed it.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by jlehtone » Sun, 27. Jun 21, 23:44

I don't recall ARGvsZYA (3.10 -- 4.00). There are ARGvsHOP and ARGvsXEN.

When you fulfill Guild requirements there will be a trivial "Speak to person" mission that is listed among other Guild missions and visible everywhere in the Galaxy. Once you do the mission, i.e. go and listen a speech, missions of that Guild do show up, but only in relevant sectors.
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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Mon, 28. Jun 21, 14:31

I went through and looked at some of my games, and that is correct, there are no ARG v ZYA missions. Just HoP and Xenon.... seems like there should be missions though, if ZYA is at war with them... why not offer missions to combat that threat. Oh well. I would have sworn I had done some ARG v ZYA missions in the past, but i was wrong i guess.

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by jlehtone » Mon, 28. Jun 21, 16:34

grapedog wrote:
Mon, 28. Jun 21, 14:31
I would have sworn I had done some ARG v ZYA missions in the past, but i was wrong i guess.
Could they have been generic missions? I've boarded some ARG Freighters for ZYA clients. Those were generic missions; not from ZYAvsARG Guild. Fat paycheck too.

ANT has Trade Guild.
TEL has Trade Guild.
ARGvsHOP and ARGvsXEN
HOPvsARG and HOPvsPAR
PARvsHOP
SCAvs***

MIN, FRF, ALI, and FAF do not seem to have Guilds.
TER, PIO, Yaki?
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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Mon, 28. Jun 21, 20:42

Ok i've tested all this now properly so here is the list of guilds available in 4.0hf2 all dlcs at the stage where no faction where altered by plots :

ANT Trade Guild
TEL Trade Guild
PIO Trade Guild
ARG vs HOP
ARG vs XEN
HOP vs ARG
HOP vs PAR
PAR vs HOP
ZYA vs ARG
TER vs XEN
SCA General

Should maybe put this in some wiki. I saw there is so much data of this type missing there. Well only a suggestion. :)

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by grapedog » Tue, 29. Jun 21, 00:16

TER... maybe they offer war missions against ANT/ARG after the resolution of the covert ops storyline?

I think plot resolutions should create new mission options.

Like TRI v BUC
RHA v CUB and CUB v RHA
TER/ANT/ARG v each other depending on covert ops

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by bof111 » Tue, 29. Jun 21, 11:28

I tested all versions of terran plot ending and there was nothing new and i'm pretty sure there will be nothing.
But i tested not a long time after the conclusion of the plot. So i'm not 100% sure on this one. It maybe needs more time to trigger. Technically i waited until the war status triggers. (the message in the GalNet "newspaper")
I think too that guild missions should adapt a bit to the political changes. But it would be quite alot of work to do as they should script a good part of it. (paintjobs, and so on...)

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Re: Argon/Terran war Guild ?

Post by LandogarX4 » Fri, 2. Jul 21, 17:55

grapedog wrote:
Tue, 29. Jun 21, 00:16
TER... maybe they offer war missions against ANT/ARG after the resolution of the covert ops storyline?
They do not.

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