[mods] kuertee's (RPG, QOL, UI): 18 Feb 2024: Kuda: many bug-fixes; UIX: New callbacks for new mods; ATD: Ironman mode

[kuertee]

Quite literally the best change yet lol. I'll have to give it a try soon, this was one of the biggest annoyances I've had with carriers due to them forcing a recall even when moving only like 50km away to get out of the middle of a huge XEN swarm.

so ... i sat down to actually play the game this afternoon.
and i noticed that the "don't Recall Subordinates unless destination is 2 or more gates away" wasn't actually working.
(was frustrating. hahah! i was looking to just playing the game.)
will upload the fix tomorrow.

[Mycu]

so ... i sat down to actually play the game this afternoon.

kuertee, whenever in some distant and far future you'll mod the game (no hurry!) - please take a look at the 'activate the autocam' hotkey - it stopped working.

[kuertee]

so ... i sat down to actually play the game this afternoon.

kuertee, whenever in some distant and far future you'll mod the game (no hurry!) - please take a look at the 'activate the autocam' hotkey - it stopped working.

Will do. I also noticed that the “stop autopilot early” wasn’t working also, so I’ll look at that mod today.

[IgorDolvich]

so ... i sat down to actually play the game this afternoon.
and i noticed that the "don't Recall Subordinates unless destination is 2 or more gates away" wasn't actually working.
(was frustrating. hahah! i was looking to just playing the game.)
will upload the fix tomorrow.

Lol no problem, I'm sure you're quite busy somehow maintaining a dozen mods

So far though, the only issue I've noticed with the newest updates is that the Surface Element Targeting mod will continuously (randomly) spam "No surface elements detected", particularly when I'm targeting S/M ships. It's not every time, but when it does happen it'll state the message like 5-6 times with the notification sound. I'm able to replicate it when the ship I'm fighting moves far out of range and goes beyond the LOD range (disappears from sight) if I'm still having it selected as a target. Just a minor issue. Maybe just exclude S/M ships entirely from the script? Not sure lol.

Everything else is working great though!

[kuertee]

...So far though, the only issue I've noticed with the newest updates is that the Surface Element Targeting mod will continuously (randomly) spam "No surface elements detected"...

Dang! I forgot to fix this. Will do it tomorrow or the next day.

[kuertee]

KUDA AI tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/839
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: A few updates:

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-New feature: When the custom behaviours, avoid, step forward, and withdraw, are cancelled, they will not be applied again until after 10 seconds. This gives you some control of their use. Note that this doesn't persist after 10 seconds - unlike the "Avoid high-risk enemies" Interact Menu command, which persists until re-enabled.
-Tweak: Consolidated the avoid and withdraw handlers for better performance.
-New feature: Ships will never try to restock/repair if their commander has attack orders - unless their hull is at 25% or less.
-New feature: The base flee behaviour now points to what the ship is fleeing from.
-Bug-fix: Withdraw vectors were not being applied. Instead ships were withdrawing at their facing orientation.
-Bug-fix: Recall subordinates only when the destination is more than 2 gates away wasn't working.
-Bug-fix: Coordinated Attack: Rally points weren't updating when the target moves.
-Bug-fix: The normal flee was interrupting Kuda's custom behaviours. E.g. Fleeing when withdrawing - causing large ships to break off from their attack rather than withdraw then return to attack.
-Tweak: Rewrote the avoid and withdraw conditions for better performance and clarity (ease of debugging).
-New feature: German localisation.

Auto-camera, auto-pilot, and auto-pause https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/734
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: Bug-fixes:

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-Bug-fix: Hotkey wasn't working.
-Bug-fix: Stop autopilot earlier wasn't working.
-New feature: German localisation.

Emergent missions https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/780
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: Small tweak:

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-Tweak: More granular Extension Options sliders for the reward multiplier.
-New feature: German localisation.

Modification parts trader https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/721
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: Small tweak:

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-Tweak: More granular Extension Options sliders for cost and price multipliers.
-New feature: German localisation.

UI Extensions and HUD https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/552
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: New features:

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-Tweak: Expanding a fleet or a station will auto expand their ship sections.
-New feature: Callbacks to support Trade Analytic's new idlers and away icons and location (final sector destination) ship row data.

UI: Trade analytics https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/764
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: New features:

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-New feature: The sector of the ship's default order is listed along with their current location - if they are not in their default sector.
-New feature: The total number of idling traders, miners and builders is listed next to the fleet composition.
-New feature: The total number ships away from their commander's or base's sector is listed next to the fleet composition.
-New feature: German localisation.

The new UI elements in Trade Analytics: https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mo ... 36777.jpeg

[kmunoz]

I'm noticing a lot of "Enemy spotted" voiceover spam with the recent updates. Even if I turn off all reporting in Extension Options, I'm still hearing her call out "enemy spotted" every few seconds.

[kmunoz]

Feature suggestion: a toggle in extension options for Auto-camera that lets you have only the first camera shot when triggering autopilot. The autopilot camera usually looks fantastic when the autopilot starts (because the ship has to turn and accelerate), but after that, it can get a bit dull since usually the ship is just traveling in a straight line for a long time.

It would be nice if there were a way to toggle it so that you could get that first camera sweep (especially if it's a close camera where you can see the ship turn and cross the screen as it speeds up) and then switch back to the cockpit.

[kuertee]

I'm noticing a lot of "Enemy spotted" voiceover spam with the recent updates. Even if I turn off all reporting in Extension Options, I'm still hearing her call out "enemy spotted" every few seconds.

Ahhh yeah, I found the bug in NPCR Reactions. Will fix it tomorrow.

[IgorDolvich]

UI Extensions and HUD https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/552
v5.1.0306, 18 Sep 2022: New features:
-Tweak: Expanding a fleet or a station will auto expand their ship sections..

Another great QoL feature lol. Good job! I tend to have rather large fleets that have subordinates within subordinates (makes it easier to click "Remove Assignment" on the top level commander to have a new detachment that can then operate on its own), so this makes it easier to do this. Typically on a load game or whatever, all of the nests will close which was mildly annoying. Thank you, I'll have to get this a try now.

Ahhh yeah, I found the bug in NPCR Reactions. Will fix it tomorrow.

Would it be possible in the future to add additional loans to the managers and/or shady guys? Such as 1 million, 5 million, 10 million, etc and higher loans have higher interest rates or something along those lines (I believe there might be a tie-in with your Crimes has Consequences mod, after reading through the various mod xml files, although I've never received a fine for not paying back loans. Not sure if it's enabled or not, I generally pay them back anyways just because). Obviously this might go beyond the scope of the original mod, but maybe Shady Guys can give you good loans / interest rates, but after not paying the loan back (few hours, idk) some "Repo" fleets can show up to try and claim the money back, ie. harassing you. Small loans could just have a few fighters or whatever, while much larger loans they might even just attack your stations or something directly.

[Endellur]

Looks like you can no longer collapse the ship lists, they are just locked open..

[Halpog]

L and XL ships withdraw from stations targets when their shields fall below 90%.

this is absolutly bull setting seriously ....noone of my ships is attacking anymore after it getzs hits 2 or 3 times ...... if i dont disable avoid high risk, they not attacking at all ....
how can u set this shit to SHIELD 90% ???? they should flee when the hull is less than 50% .... but shield .. comon.. u cant beserious about that ...
that renders all ships basicaly pointless, since they only flee from everything...and get shot in the back while fleeing and not firing back

and one of the worst points ever .. if the ship has 1 forward weapon but 250 turrents .. it sill stay in max range to attack a station with the forward weapon instead of being in turret range and using the 250 turrets ...

[kuertee]

L and XL ships withdraw from stations targets when their shields fall below 90%.

this is absolutly bull setting seriously ....noone of my ships is attacking anymore after it getzs hits 2 or 3 times ...... if i dont disable avoid high risk, they not attacking at all ....
how can u set this shit to SHIELD 90% ???? they should flee when the hull is less than 50% .... but shield .. comon.. u cant beserious about that ...
that renders all ships basicaly pointless, since they only flee from everything...and get shot in the back while fleeing and not firing back

and one of the worst points ever .. if the ship has 1 forward weapon but 250 turrents .. it sill stay in max range to attack a station with the forward weapon instead of being in turret range and using the 250 turrets ...

Step one: uninstall the mod. There is no step 2.

No, seriously, if it doesn’t work as you wish, you don’t need to use it.

But just FYI, any less than 90%, shields get too much damage that hull is damaged before they get away. I posted my observations in a Reddit thread many months ago. But can’t find it at the moment.

[Halpog]

L and XL ships withdraw from stations targets when their shields fall below 90%.

this is absolutly bull setting seriously ....noone of my ships is attacking anymore after it getzs hits 2 or 3 times ...... if i dont disable avoid high risk, they not attacking at all ....
how can u set this shit to SHIELD 90% ???? they should flee when the hull is less than 50% .... but shield .. comon.. u cant beserious about that ...
that renders all ships basicaly pointless, since they only flee from everything...and get shot in the back while fleeing and not firing back

and one of the worst points ever .. if the ship has 1 forward weapon but 250 turrents .. it sill stay in max range to attack a station with the forward weapon instead of being in turret range and using the 250 turrets ...

Step one: uninstall the mod. There is no step 2.

No, seriously, if it doesn’t work as you wish, you don’t need to use it.

But just FYI, any less than 90%, shields get too much damage that hull is damaged before they get away. I posted my observations in a Reddit thread many months ago. But can’t find it at the moment.

no idea what ua re talking about realy .. i tell my ships to attack a damn xenon station ... they fly to it shot 1 or 2 times.. get hit 3 or 4 times turn arround and run away .. wtf ... i send a XL ship there with 2 main guns and 20 turrets .. he stays in max range to use only main weapons.. thats it ...can watch 3 hours how he tryes to dmg a xenon station with 2 forward weapons .... than 2 ****** S ships fly in make dmg on him he goes to shields 90% and starts to fly away across the whole secotr

disabling avoid of risky enemies is nothing worse than anyway when he just keeps flying away...
and yes uninstalled it ofc.....i mean what for iam producing XL and L ships when they cant even attack a station anymore

[kuertee]

...no idea what ua re talking about realy .. i tell my ships to attack a damn xenon station ... they fly to it shot 1 or 2 times.. get hit 3 or 4 times turn arround and run away .. wtf ... i send a XL ship there with 2 main guns and 20 turrets .. he stays in max range to use only main weapons.. thats it ...can watch 3 hours how he tryes to dmg a xenon station with 2 forward weapons .... than 2 ****** S ships fly in make dmg on him he goes to shields 90% and starts to fly away across the whole secotr ... disabling avoid of risky enemies is nothing worse than anyway when he just keeps flying away...
and yes uninstalled it ofc.....i mean what for iam producing XL and L ships when they cant even attack a station anymore

It was obvious from your original criticisms that you weren't interested in discussing your observations. And I'm totally happy for you to not use the mod. :thumbs-up:

[Halpog]

L and XL ships withdraw from stations targets when their shields fall below 90%.

this is absolutly bull setting seriously ....noone of my ships is attacking anymore after it getzs hits 2 or 3 times ...... if i dont disable avoid high risk, they not attacking at all ....
how can u set this shit to SHIELD 90% ???? they should flee when the hull is less than 50% .... but shield .. comon.. u cant beserious about that ...
that renders all ships basicaly pointless, since they only flee from everything...and get shot in the back while fleeing and not firing back

and one of the worst points ever .. if the ship has 1 forward weapon but 250 turrents .. it sill stay in max range to attack a station with the forward weapon instead of being in turret range and using the 250 turrets ...

Step one: uninstall the mod. There is no step 2.

No, seriously, if it doesn’t work as you wish, you don’t need to use it.

But just FYI, any less than 90%, shields get too much damage that hull is damaged before they get away. I posted my observations in a Reddit thread many months ago. But can’t find it at the moment.

what elkse to say.. there is no need to diskuss since u already know the behaviour . u posted about it many months ago....so u obviously seen how the ships act and what happens..and as i said 90% for shield dmg to withdraw from combat ....is crapp .. because in the time they fly away and flee enemies follow them and just destroy any ship without any probpems since ships are fleeing instead of fighting back .... and this is a fact ....
that ships just circle arround for hours on a station u also know since u posted a screenshot about it on nexxus already back than .....meaning they keep flying and flying and flying wihtout to even shot a single time...
and i said already they fly to a station use the main gun shoot 2 or 3 times and start to flee because they got hit 3 or 4 times ....
strange that in your games the hull gets down before the shield ...never happend to me....in my games the hull gets dmg when my ships shields are gone ... so why bother to explain any further ?
u already said best way is to uninstall it, and thats what i did.no need for anything else

[kuertee]

... because in the time they fly away and flee enemies follow them and just destroy any ship without any probpems since ships are fleeing instead of fighting back .... and this is a fact ....

here's some facts in regards to this point. admittedly, it's not in the description. they are in the change logs - which i don't expect anyone to read, so i can forgive you this one point.

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v5.0.0015, 3 Apr 2022:
-New behaviour: L, and XL ships do not withdraw against high-risk ship targets unless there's another L or XL ship attacker.

apart from that point, there's been many enhancements to withdraw, e.g. among others:

v5.1.0303, 1 Sep 2022:
-Tweak: New withdrawal cancellation: Ships that have a low chance of survival or ships with enemies that have a low chance of survival never withdraw or cancel their withdrwals.
-Tweak: New withdrawal cancellation: Withdrawing ships cancel their withdrawal when their enemy ship stop chasing them (and when they are at least 10km away, to allow for some shields to recharge).

and because i'm on the topic, here's a change log for my next version:

-Tweak: Withdraw vectors to draw enemy towards allies: If there are no allies within 10km of the enemy, ships will withdraw towards the nearest ally. If an ally is within 5km from the target, the vector is directly away from the enemy. If an ally is within 10km, the vector is perpendicular (90 deg) to that ally, giving the ally more chance to get closer to the enemy.
-Tweak: Only ships within 5km or in front of their high-risk ship enemy withdraws. They withdraw against stations as in previous versions.

Edit: Since 3 versions ago, most don’t retreat at 90 shields. End edit.

... that ships just circle around for hours on a station u also know since u posted a screenshot about it on nexxus already back than .....meaning they keep flying and flying and flying wihtout to even shot a single time...

this point, i can't give to you. it's obvious that you don't know how this behaviour works/was applied by me.

[Halpog]

... because in the time they fly away and flee enemies follow them and just destroy any ship without any probpems since ships are fleeing instead of fighting back .... and this is a fact ....

here's some facts in regards to this point. admittedly, it's not in the description. they are in the change logs - which i don't expect anyone to read, so i can forgive you this one point.

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v5.0.0015, 3 Apr 2022:
-New behaviour: L, and XL ships do not withdraw against high-risk ship targets unless there's another L or XL ship attacker.

apart from that point, there's been many enhancements to withdraw, e.g. among others:

v5.1.0303, 1 Sep 2022:
-Tweak: New withdrawal cancellation: Ships that have a low chance of survival or ships with enemies that have a low chance of survival never withdraw or cancel their withdrwals.
-Tweak: New withdrawal cancellation: Withdrawing ships cancel their withdrawal when their enemy ship stop chasing them (and when they are at least 10km away, to allow for some shields to recharge).

and because i'm on the topic, here's a change log for my next version:

-Tweak: Withdraw vectors to draw enemy towards allies: If there are no allies within 10km of the enemy, ships will withdraw towards the nearest ally. If an ally is within 5km from the target, the vector is directly away from the enemy. If an ally is within 10km, the vector is perpendicular (90 deg) to that ally, giving the ally more chance to get closer to the enemy.
-Tweak: Only ships within 5km or in front of their high-risk ship enemy withdraws. They withdraw against stations as in previous versions.

Edit: Since 3 versions ago, most don’t retreat at 90 shields. End edit.

... that ships just circle around for hours on a station u also know since u posted a screenshot about it on nexxus already back than .....meaning they keep flying and flying and flying wihtout to even shot a single time...

this point, i can't give to you. it's obvious that you don't know how this behaviour works/was applied by me.

all i read is withfdraw here, withdraw there, in this direction in that direction. and so on ..so basicaly u nullify the point of having an XL ship with a lot of XL turrets since it wont attack stations at all.. it will just purely withdraw and fly away....nothing what u post will change this fact that exactly this will happen....same goes for XL , L ships that fly arround in a circle among an enemy station without to attack at all....
and as i said earlier already i deleted this mod anyway, after ive seen what it does and what happens with it. iam to lazy to make movies again and show u what happens exactly.. lucky u ...

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@kuertee

dont feed the trolls

you doing an amazing job with this mods - without X4 would be boring for me

Regards

[Endellur]

@kuertee - Is forcing the ship lists on a station to stay open intended or is this a bug?