[MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 4.x
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Tried a different approach, instead of directly attacking i gave a move order near the target followed by attack while in rangem again though, the destroyers would all turn away and proceed to slowly fly away, i say slowly because when not in combat they use there travel engines to fly away but seeing they was already in combat they didnt use it
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Help...
Probably something simple, but I'm not seeing the new ships...no Centaur/Cyclops/Titan at either the Argon or Antigone SY's. I haven't yet looked at other races.
Probably something simple, but I'm not seeing the new ships...no Centaur/Cyclops/Titan at either the Argon or Antigone SY's. I haven't yet looked at other races.
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Played long or new game? seeing maybe the mod is not on due to being in the wrong extensions folder, i just checked argon shipyards and they are there
How are you using your destroyers? becuase when they are unassigned and i give them an order to attack they work fine, its just when they are an attack sub for another ship which is ordered to attack to run off
Edit: Scratch that, still doing it even when ordering them directly as unassigned ships
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Yep, just set up 3.2 legacy patch and its FAR superior, Not only do ships go back in formation once orders are complete which 3,3 was struggling with, destroyers go and attack their commanders target
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Thanks for the reply. I'm on board with the /extensions folder location, and have used quite a few mods without issues.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Sun, 2. Aug 20, 11:55Played long or new game? seeing maybe the mod is not on due to being in the wrong extensions folder, i just checked argon shipyards and they are there
Currently, the only entries in the /extensions folder are ego_dlc_split and vro. With a new game using the Young Gun start, you begin in Black Hole Sun...and Argon Prime is visible on your map. Looking at the Argon SY and clicking on Buy Ships, I can see the regular L and XL ships for sale...but no Centaur/Cyclops/Titan are listed.
The VRO mod is installed and the game is running...just no new Argon ships.
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Can you see any other things from the mod? like all the new weps ect?DeadlyDa wrote: ↑Mon, 3. Aug 20, 09:55Thanks for the reply. I'm on board with the /extensions folder location, and have used quite a few mods without issues.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Sun, 2. Aug 20, 11:55Played long or new game? seeing maybe the mod is not on due to being in the wrong extensions folder, i just checked argon shipyards and they are there
Currently, the only entries in the /extensions folder are ego_dlc_split and vro. With a new game using the Young Gun start, you begin in Black Hole Sun...and Argon Prime is visible on your map. Looking at the Argon SY and clicking on Buy Ships, I can see the regular L and XL ships for sale...but no Centaur/Cyclops/Titan are listed.
The VRO mod is installed and the game is running...just no new Argon ships.
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
No VRO ships or weapon changes. The starter Elite is sitting at the EQ Dock in BHS as per the Young Gun start. Looking at available ship upgrades, they are all stock X4.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Mon, 3. Aug 20, 18:44Can you see any other things from the mod? like all the new weps ect?DeadlyDa wrote: ↑Mon, 3. Aug 20, 09:55Thanks for the reply. I'm on board with the /extensions folder location, and have used quite a few mods without issues.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Sun, 2. Aug 20, 11:55
Played long or new game? seeing maybe the mod is not on due to being in the wrong extensions folder, i just checked argon shipyards and they are there
Currently, the only entries in the /extensions folder are ego_dlc_split and vro. With a new game using the Young Gun start, you begin in Black Hole Sun...and Argon Prime is visible on your map. Looking at the Argon SY and clicking on Buy Ships, I can see the regular L and XL ships for sale...but no Centaur/Cyclops/Titan are listed.
The VRO mod is installed and the game is running...just no new Argon ships.
I am using the correct extensions folder, which I have used successfully for other mods - "...\Steam\steamapps\common\X4 Foundations\extensions".
I validated the local X4 files with Steam, and re-downloaded VRO (vro-305-2-2-1592158510.zip) and faction_enhancer.zip...just to make sure everything was clean.
The only mods in the extensions folder are:
- ego_dlc_split
- faction_fix_pack
- faction_fix_pack_catchup
- faction_fix_pack_econ_ai
- faction_fix_pack_econ_bal
- vro
EDIT: Running 3.30, if that makes a difference.
EDIT #2: All sorted. Somehow Steam Workshop was turned on and VRO was not set to load. I have no idea how that happened, as I have never used Steam Workshop...always preferred to load mods manually into the /extensions folder. I disabled Steam Workshop, and all is well.
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Well then enjoy, so far im enjoying the range changes the most
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Ok i was skeptical about getting an overall mod but i gotta say, im loving this mod
Space battles feel so epic, any other plans down the road?
Space battles feel so epic, any other plans down the road?
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
new version will be up in next week sometimeNemesis_87 wrote: ↑Tue, 11. Aug 20, 17:16Ok i was skeptical about getting an overall mod but i gotta say, im loving this mod
Space battles feel so epic, any other plans down the road?
few new ships
few new weapons
some balancing and bug fixing
Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Can't wait to cruise around in a Hyperion again!new ships
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ah nice, although i can admit im not a fan of the current new ships (the ones ported from other x games anyways) seeing im really OCD and uniformed and they just dont match the current ship linesShuulo wrote: ↑Tue, 11. Aug 20, 18:20new version will be up in next week sometimeNemesis_87 wrote: ↑Tue, 11. Aug 20, 17:16Ok i was skeptical about getting an overall mod but i gotta say, im loving this mod
Space battles feel so epic, any other plans down the road?
few new ships
few new weapons
some balancing and bug fixing
Although i always wanted a battleship varient of the monitor because it was an awesome looking ship, and here it is haha
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Is it the quality of the models, or just the overall look?Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 12:04ah nice, although i can admit im not a fan of the current new ships (the ones ported from other x games anyways) seeing im really OCD and uniformed and they just dont match the current ship lines
Although i always wanted a battleship varient of the monitor because it was an awesome looking ship, and here it is haha
Because if it's quality you're worried about, I don't think you have to worry too much with the Cyclops, it's quite the beauty.
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Oh i saw that one, wondered if it was gonna end up here seeing its a really good model, that 1 matches the Argon fleet and also changes colour in options with the rest of the fleet by the look of it? but that one fits well, stuff like the Panther does nto do it for me because it only comes in black and its texture and design dont match the rest of the fleetDrewgamer wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 15:22Is it the quality of the models, or just the overall look?Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 12:04ah nice, although i can admit im not a fan of the current new ships (the ones ported from other x games anyways) seeing im really OCD and uniformed and they just dont match the current ship lines
Although i always wanted a battleship varient of the monitor because it was an awesome looking ship, and here it is haha
Because if it's quality you're worried about, I don't think you have to worry too much with the Cyclops, it's quite the beauty.
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you sure you meant panther? panther can use camos and its design quite close to current split ships.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 15:46stuff like the Panther does nto do it for me because it only comes in black and its texture and design dont match the rest of the fleet
only Centaur is not able to use camo colors
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Oh i just built one to try and it does have it, just on the build screen its usualy just black, but when its in space its colour is just alot brighter than other ships so harder to notice, but the ship is still way to out of uniform for my eye hahaShuulo wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 16:58you sure you meant panther? panther can use camos and its design quite close to current split ships.Nemesis_87 wrote: ↑Wed, 12. Aug 20, 15:46stuff like the Panther does nto do it for me because it only comes in black and its texture and design dont match the rest of the fleet
only Centaur is not able to use camo colors
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
Loving the mod so far!
Since all shields have the recharge delay removed, I went ahead and also removed the delay related bonuses from the modifications. For those where that would've been a nerf in vanilla I added a small buff to the other effects. Feel free to do with this as you wish.
I really don't know whether the buff values I chose are fair, you can probably judge that much better.
libraries/eqiuipmentmods.xml:
One other thing I noticed: AI seems to be unable to use Positron Beam properly in-sector. In my test they first shot it a few times at the enemy capital ship and then just stopped. It is either a range thing (the ship had 2 turrets that outranged the 2 Positron Beams) or it was unable to let the weapon reload/cooldown. The reload behaviour is a bit weird when manually using it anyways. If you hold the shoot button, it doesn't start cooling down ever - but if you let go until the reload is done (by feel), it starts cooling down a bit before you can shoot it again. Or something like that, not entirely sure.
Since all shields have the recharge delay removed, I went ahead and also removed the delay related bonuses from the modifications. For those where that would've been a nerf in vanilla I added a small buff to the other effects. Feel free to do with this as you wish.
I really don't know whether the buff values I chose are fair, you can probably judge that much better.
libraries/eqiuipmentmods.xml:
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<diff>
<!--
Since there is 0 recharge delay on all shields in VRO the mods for it are useless.
-->
<!-- remove the basic mod that only affects rechargedelay -->
<remove sel="//equipmentmods/shield/rechargedelay[@ware='mod_shield_rechargedelay_01_mk1']" />
<!--
The medium tiers have a 50% chance of getting either delay or rate mod.
Just removing the delay makes it so you get a guaranteed useful bonus,
maybe this bonus should then be nerfed?
-->
<replace sel="//equipmentmods/shield/capacity[@ware='mod_shield_capacity_01_mk2']/bonus">
<bonus chance="1.0" max="1">
<rechargerate min="1.1" max="1.2" />
</bonus>
</replace>
<replace sel="//equipmentmods/shield/rechargerate[@ware='mod_shield_rechargerate_01_mk2']/bonus">
<bonus chance="1.0" max="1">
<capacity min="1.1" max="1.2" />
</bonus>
</replace>
<!--
The vanilla "fast-cycling" high tier has a guaranteed delay bonus and nothing else.
As a counterbalance to removing the bonus, the rate is buffed by 5%.
-->
<replace sel="//equipmentmods/shield/rechargerate[@ware='mod_shield_rechargerate_01_mk3']">
<rechargerate ware="mod_shield_rechargerate_01_mk3" quality="3" min="1.35" max="1.75" />
</replace>
<!--
The vanilla "generalist" high tier has both delay and rate bonus.
To compensate the removed delay buff, we buff both capacity and rate by 5% more minimum, but not maximum.
-->
<replace sel="//equipmentmods/shield/capacity[@ware='mod_shield_capacity_02_mk3']">
<capacity ware="mod_shield_capacity_02_mk3" quality="3" min="1.15" max="1.3">
<bonus chance="1.0" max="1">
<rechargerate min="1.15" max="1.3" />
</bonus>
</capacity>
</replace>
</diff>
Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x
New version when? saw reddit post - that ship so sexy