No hull part production?

[Mrinnovation]

Hi and Thanks in advance. I only have about 900 hours in the game so far, but i've run into an issue:

I seem to be having an issue of not seeing any hull part production on the map. I have restarted a new game many times. Uninstalled and reinstalled. I have removed all mods, and restarted a new game, but I still see no hull part production on the map, and you can't build anything without hull parts. If I try and build a hull part factory there aren't any hull parts on the map to finish the factory so it sits there for many real time hours. Same with ships and everything else. Simply no hull part production.

I do however find some hull parts being made in Avarice at the recyclers, but I need to find out why there are none on the rest of the map.

Any help please?

Tad

[Imperial Good]

Should be a ton of hull parts productions all over the place. Most commonwealth trade stations even magic some hull parts into existence every hour or so.

For more specific help you should provide your not modified save file. It is very likely that people will be able to find multiple Hull Parts factories.

[Nanook]

First of all, most hull part producing stations aren't called Hull Part Factories. Most of the time, those factories producing hull parts are also producing other wares, and can be called such things as Ship Technology or High Tech factories. So look for those, too.

Second, early in the game, hull parts can be exceedingly scarce as the various factions battle each other and consume hull parts to produce replacement ships, or even stations.

Third, have you tried using the map filter to see if any of the stations you've uncovered in the game are producing hull parts? If not, open up the map filter and remove all the generic items in the list. Then add in only hull parts, and zoom the map all the way out. If you've uncovered any hull part-producing stations, they should show up.

Finally, if you still can't find any, have you tried verifying your game files with Steam? Sometimes installs can be corrupted or incomplete and a verification can fix it. Assuming your game isn't modified, of course.

Good luck, and if none of the above helps, please do as Imperial Good suggested and post a link to a save file so other players can check your game.

[Mrinnovation]

As I stated in my first post there is NO hull part production, none, zero, zilch, nada. You can sit there for five real time hours and NOT BUILD ANYTHING (no ships, no stations) WITHIN THOSE FIVE HOURS. None, Zero.

If you add the economy enhancer mod, it starts production within 30 minutes. Without that, there is NO PRODUCTION.

I will start a new game without any mods and see if I can repeat the error, and post the save game file.

Thanks for the help.

[Alan Phipps]

This is most likely a 3rd party mod/edit effect as nobody else playing vanilla is seeing this exact issue, and despite the stated removal of mods before game restart. You may perhaps have missed completely removing the mod parts causing the issue.

The only other thing that I can think of is if you are using one of the custom starts and have not set it up for any such production or demand.

[Flashand]

i have seen this in vanilla, it is a legitimate bug. However, and unfortunately you have to restart from when there was another hull part factory. I have had to do this 2x, and has been reported and fixed at least that many times.

[Alan Phipps]

@ Flashand: Any links to those two reports and fixes? I can't find them unfortunately.

About the only thing relevant that I can find was a report that in some games there were too few NPC methane gas miners either finding resources or surviving attacks - if no methane then no graphene, no quantum tubes, no hull parts or claytronics.

[Mrinnovation]

After many hours of testing it looks repeatable, but inconsistent. Fresh game made after total uninstall of the game and all mods, deletion of the folder under steam. Reinstall and start a new game. Sometimes you get no hull part production and cant build anything regardless of how long you wait. Many times I have had to cheat by modifying the game.

In the long term I have worked around the bug (like most everything else in game) by using mods to correct the bug. Without using the economy mod I was getting no hull production and of course the game is unplayable in that state.

I no longer have the time to continually chase down and document the bug so I will use mods to work around the issue.

[Alan Phipps]

"Sometimes you get no hull part production and cant build anything regardless of how long you wait."

That would have been the time to post a link to a vanilla early game save with the problem as previously requested so that the devs could investigate and hopefully prevent it going wrong in future releases. That would have taken relatively little time to submit as you had the problem there already.

[Mrinnovation]

You may want to go ahead and remove the post then since it will be a long time before I go through all the steps I have taken. Since this is a very rare case anyways, then it may not be a critical bug to track down and document.