"Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol - Fixed in an upcoming update

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"Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol - Fixed in an upcoming update

Post by Phipsz » Mon, 11. Oct 21, 19:27

Hi,

a user on Discord reported an issue where they got a mission from terrans to scan a ship with water in Mars. As it is not in my game, I sadly cannot provide a savegame, but following screenshot shows the mission in question
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png
game is said to be unmodified.
as terrans do not need water in any production line, this seems to be a bug, as no ship with water is likely to enter Sol

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Imperial Good » Tue, 12. Oct 21, 04:23

Argon and ANT traders often enter Sol to trade in Terran wares. However I do agree it is unlikely for a water transport to end up there, unless the mission moves one.

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Phipsz » Tue, 12. Oct 21, 10:53

The confusion over this mission is especially true for a new player, as the poster on Discord seemed to be. "Veteran" players can "just" see that the mission is a bust and ignore it, but a new player might think they do something wrong and get frustrated, especially since the mission is labeled as "easy"

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by BitByte » Wed, 20. Oct 21, 20:59

Bring your own ship (no matter which one) with 1 unit of water and scan it. Mission completed.

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Phipsz » Wed, 27. Oct 21, 21:31

BitByte wrote:
Wed, 20. Oct 21, 20:59
Bring your own ship (no matter which one) with 1 unit of water and scan it. Mission completed.
that's an ugly workaround imho for an issue that should not arise. again, new players will not be able to afford such a solution or even think of one such solution, still making this mission basically impossibe for them

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by No_Pro » Wed, 27. Oct 21, 22:59

BitByte wrote:
Wed, 20. Oct 21, 20:59
Bring your own ship (no matter which one) with 1 unit of water and scan it. Mission completed.
As far as i tried, that solution is no longer possible. I at least wasn't able to scan my own ships.
I read in another thread here, that it should be possible to drop the wanted ware in front of an L ship that can transport it an than to scan that ship.
But i have not tried this solution so far.
On the other hand i haven't seen a mission to scan a ship within a specific sector so far.
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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by BitByte » Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:01

that's an ugly workaround imho for an issue that should not arise. again, new players will not be able to afford such a solution or even think of one such solution, still making this mission basically impossibe for them
I didn't know this is beaury contest ;) Personally I prefer to play game by the designed way but at the same time if there's alternative options how things are allowed to do I don't hesitate use them in case where getting solution is impossible or it would jeopardize my own reputation in the game without being able to fix it (with this I especially talk about FAF). Open world open solutions should be the way.

In X4 there has been many other missions too which are / were impossible or would have require out of the box thinking in past. 1 example is the mission where you need destroy HOF ships (beat back the fanatics). Problem was that when this mission came available I already had wiped them away from map.
Another so far extremely hard mission is destroy SCA Guillemot Vanguards (not even single ship seen in the map so far). As only solution would be sell these ships to them and then destroy. On the other hand since version 4.00 you cannot sell ships to SCA Pirate Base.
Recently it became possible pass destroy SCA Vulture Vanguard & Sentinel-missions as those ships came widely flying around the galaxy. This would have been possible complete earlier same way as guillemot mission but both I decided keep waiting in my list.

About ships scanning - In 3.20 it wasn't possible scan own or already scanned ships but later versions it have become possible. I just tested with Rattlesnake and scanned my own Magnatar Mineral. This time captain didn't whine but agreed with scan. Just make sure you have police scanner installed so you get full details.
Sometimes it may require multiple (the best have been 6 times) scans until whole ship config is revealed (which I keep some sort of bug as it should be max 2).
When using L-size ship it seems sometimes you need come below 900m until you can make scan (dunno why as range should be 1km). Maybe problem is related to the angle where you approach the ship (or where target ship is).
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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Imperial Good » Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:45

BitByte wrote:
Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:01
Sometimes it may require multiple (the best have been 6 times) scans until whole ship config is revealed (which I keep some sort of bug as it should be max 2).
SCA and FAF ships might re-disguise themselves which will undo your scan. Normal ships will reveal 100% information if scanned with a ship with police scanner equipped.

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by BitByte » Fri, 29. Oct 21, 22:02

Imperial Good wrote:
Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:45
BitByte wrote:
Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:01
Sometimes it may require multiple (the best have been 6 times) scans until whole ship config is revealed (which I keep some sort of bug as it should be max 2).
SCA and FAF ships might re-disguise themselves which will undo your scan. Normal ships will reveal 100% information if scanned with a ship with police scanner equipped.
Yes that's true but can they do it so fast if I do 6 scans in row (new scan after previous is done)? With time for sure they hide their true identity / ship details.

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Gimbutz » Tue, 16. Nov 21, 15:19

Thank you for your patience and the reminder. This issue will be fixed in an upcoming update.

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol

Post by Alm888 » Tue, 16. Nov 21, 19:43

Imperial Good wrote:
Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:45
BitByte wrote:
Thu, 28. Oct 21, 23:01
Sometimes it may require multiple (the best have been 6 times) scans until whole ship config is revealed (which I keep some sort of bug as it should be max 2).
SCA and FAF ships might re-disguise themselves which will undo your scan. Normal ships will reveal 100% information if scanned with a ship with police scanner equipped.
Just to nitpick: no not all "Normal" ships. Some have a security rating of 4 (most Paranid capital ships or Asgard) and the Police scanner strength is 3, which will give 75% scan ratio. For full scan one shall use spacesuit scanner (I believe, it is the strongest scanner in the game). Of course, jumping out of your ship to scan an Asgard mid-battle (bonus points if she is hostile to you!) is suicidal.

In case of some obscure wares (like "Maja Dust") I just build an S-class trader (the cheapest available), buy 1 (one) unit of required ware, sell the ship and scan immediately (won't work with SCA, or HAT, unless one builds them a wharf).

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Re: "Scan ship with water" mission from terrans in Sol - Fixed in an upcoming update

Post by Imperial Good » Tue, 16. Nov 21, 22:50

Alm888 wrote:
Tue, 16. Nov 21, 19:43
Of course, jumping out of your ship to scan an Asgard mid-battle (bonus points if she is hostile to you!) is suicidal.
You are probably quite safe if you hover in-between the double hull on the lower side of the barrel. Or if you clip inside it (XEN S ships do this to me ocassionaly)...

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