X4 4.0 - 4.10 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Fix in a build after 5.0 HF3.

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X4 4.0 - 4.10 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Fix in a build after 5.0 HF3.

Post by steph2019 » Wed, 24. Mar 21, 14:59

I'm using my old game from early days (perf have improved greatly thanks for that) but I can't ask to dock to Segaris representative for example and i don't know why - i can dock everywhere else usually except with the new factions (reputation is +13 with SEG)
if i remember well it also happened with split DLC and for a very long time later i was not able to dock to split rep station too (as it was difficult to play anyway i didn't care too much as it was too slow) - i don't remember if i destroyed the station (and rebuilt the rep later)

But now as the perf are better and with the terran DLC this is very annoying

anyone has an idea ?

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations

Post by CBJ » Wed, 24. Mar 21, 15:18

Without a savegame, we can only really guess at possible reasons. Please upload one somewhere and provide a link. Please also note that if your game is modified, we won't be able to investigate and will have to assume that one of the mods you are using is responsible for any problems.

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations

Post by steph2019 » Wed, 24. Mar 21, 15:53

thanks for the quick feedback - it was the expected next step honestly - I'll do that in a while

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations

Post by steph2019 » Wed, 24. Mar 21, 16:08

....and here it is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B-1U8b ... sp=sharing

thanks in advance - saved in Segaris sector =- all kind of ship are already there and I've tried the smallest ones - started with version 1.x and never modified

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations

Post by steph2019 » Wed, 24. Mar 21, 19:11

well received ?

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations

Post by Xenon_Slayer » Thu, 25. Mar 21, 13:02

This is a very strange situation. There are two sets of stations which are broken. All of the stations that seem to have been added when you enabled the Split DLC are broken, as well as all stations added when you enabled the Terran DLC. However, any stations that popped up after that are ok, which explains why you can dock at some more stations as time went on.

Do you happen to have a savegame from before you enabled the Terran DLC that you can provide? Also, could you try one of the Terran gamestarts and see if you still have an issue with their stations?
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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case, info needed.

Post by steph2019 » Thu, 25. Mar 21, 15:09

unfortunatelly all my saved games are after 22/03, I've just checked ... so none are in between split activation and terran one as you've asked

I'll give a try with new start to report here - but frankly I'm not interested in re-doing/restarting...

Thanks again

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case, info needed.

Post by steph2019 » Thu, 25. Mar 21, 15:48

with a new fresh game - terran one project genesis i can start from terran station for sure and dock to another terran station - oh and well fps were between 50 fps and more than 100 in space which is very different from my old game :-) but that's not the topic
I'm adding a link with this new start but i don't think it will bring you value here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1miSQn6 ... sp=sharing

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by steph2019 » Fri, 26. Mar 21, 11:20

Should i wait for a fix ?
Or, just build rep then destroy broken stations and rebuild reputation step by step as turnaround?

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by steph2019 » Fri, 26. Mar 21, 18:59

I've tried with the last 4.0 HF2 released today just to try something today, as logically expected there is no diff for this particular one

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by Alan Phipps » Fri, 26. Mar 21, 20:20

If you played to that point again then do you now have a save that would be useful to the devs for investigating it?
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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by steph2019 » Sun, 28. Mar 21, 15:52

Alan Phipps wrote:
Fri, 26. Mar 21, 20:20
If you played to that point again then do you now have a save that would be useful to the devs for investigating it?
Hi Alan,
I'm very sorry but I'm not sure to follow what you are expecting from me but willing to help...
I've provided a saved game above but I don't have a save remaining before terran installation, I've provided also a saved game after starting a new fresh start and all is working - so it doesn't look like a local installation issue
It sounds like the pre- conditions are coming from old saves - probably started with 1.5 but i don't remember exactly and the fact to activate new DLC - all new stations created at t0 of DLC activation seem broken as described by one dev from your team but then the new ones created later in live game are ok
May i suggest another action plan for investigation ?
you may create a mock up DLC number 3 with a dummy new race / one new station and see what happen with my first game saved or something similar
I'm not doing it so i don't know what effort it implies but that just an idea...as benefit it could be finish as a new test case in your future regression plan update

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by Alan Phipps » Sun, 28. Mar 21, 19:01

Thanks for the offer but the point of an 'ideal' gamesave would be to be save the devs time on issue replication. They want to spend the maximum time identifying and fixing issues and the minimum time setting up test scenarios that might or might not replicate real gameplay. Thanks anyway for the suggestion. Meanwhile the devs will get to to it eventually.
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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by chew-ie » Tue, 30. Mar 21, 21:49

We got a second (?) case @german boards: a very advanced (vanilla) savegame (~1000 hours): viewtopic.php?p=5032423#p5032359

I loaded it in my X4 installation and can confirm the issue - docking is not possible although the player has a positive ranking with PIO.

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by steph2019 » Wed, 31. Mar 21, 10:34

Danke ! - i would love to improve my german skillset to say more - still i can read it more or less :-)

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by >Fallen Angel< » Mon, 24. May 21, 16:02

So nothing new on this topic? I really would like to continue my savegame :cry:

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by >Fallen Angel< » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 17:38

4.10 Public Beta 1 - Changelog
Fixed never getting docking permission under certain rare circumstances.
Sounds promising :)


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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by steph2019 » Tue, 14. Sep 21, 10:02

tested v4.1 today it is not fixing the docking issue unfortunately - i will need to destroy the station then at some point to get the blueprints and progress mission and rebuild rep after

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Re: X4 4.0 + the 2 DLCs - docking menu disabled for Segaris stations - Devs on the case.

Post by >Fallen Angel< » Tue, 14. Sep 21, 19:36

I can confirm, its still not working.

Will I be able to dock at their stations (and progress the main terran plot) when I destroy their bases and they rebuild them?

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