Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface - Fix in a future 2.50 build

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Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface - Fix in a future 2.50 build

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The Teladi trading station in Ianamus Zura is missing a lot of her structure for me.
I can't see the docking area for example. But docking is still possible. See screenshot attached.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

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We need your DxDiag at the very least to see if your system has anything to do with this.
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Dxdiag + vulkan info --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2n82u61vjje3 ... o.zip?dl=0

I'm playing 2.21 B2 but had this issue also with previous versions.
I saw this issue first time first week of March with my GTX 1070 and nvidia drivers from December.
Now I have a GTX 1080 with the newest nvidia driver and the issue is still there.

Game start as paranid.
Game is modded.

I only have issue with the Teladi trading station. Did not see any other glitches like this.
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I don't see any issues in the DxDiag apart from a few (old?) error reports and some probably unwanted Haali codecs that shouldn't affect X4.

Is anyone else seeing the same issue with this station model?

Meanwhile I'll ask the graphics devs to take a look at your images.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

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part of the station is wrecked, so it might be in its reconstruction stage and building has not started yet on the invisible parts, most likely due to lack of resources.

Docking should of course not be possible then, we will look into it
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It would really help the devs' investigations if you could link to a vanilla save upload that shows the issue.
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Never had the station significantly damaged in my games, but these symptoms have been reported before. (vanilla save in linked thread)
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repatomonor wrote: Sat, 16. Feb 19, 16:37 Yep, I've screwed up. My bad.

THIS is the correct save file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PHu06J ... sp=sharing

I hope Egosoft will notice my mistake and get on this page to see the right save.
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Note that the correct save in that thread is on page 2 (exact link).

Heh, we cross-posted. :D

Hmm. Does that download link in the thread still work? - I get 'Oops, there was a problem with the network - retrying' .
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Markus wrote: Wed, 27. Mar 19, 10:27 part of the station is wrecked, so it might be in its reconstruction stage and building has not started yet on the invisible parts, most likely due to lack of resources.

Docking should of course not be possible then, we will look into it
As far as I've ever seen the Teladi Trading Station will never rebuild destroyed modules; they just stay broken forever. Not sure if the same applies to other trading stations and/or the other landmarks.
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I don't have a vanilla save. A button "disable/enable all mods" and a checkbox for each mod instead of a sub-menu to disable each mod separetly would be very helpful.

I made a quick video to demonstrate how it looks for me.

https://youtu.be/nSoxssbkKs4
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Mysterial wrote: Wed, 27. Mar 19, 15:32 As far as I've ever seen the Teladi Trading Station will never rebuild destroyed modules; they just stay broken forever. Not sure if the same applies to other trading stations and/or the other landmarks.
Pretty sure that is correct and trading stations cannot be repaired or built, damage has always been permanent for me where it's happened.
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Same - I've got such a semi-destroyed trade station in my vanilla savegame too.
The Teladi have repaired some station parts, but seem unable to replace any station parts destroyed completely. Mine has been in the same state of repair for like 9 days.
Other trade stations (e.g. HAT) don't seem to have such issues and replace even completely destroyed parts rather quickly.

If you need a 2.20 vanilla safe with such a station let me know.
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Alan Phipps wrote: Wed, 27. Mar 19, 15:24 Hmm. Does that download link in the thread still work? - I get 'Oops, there was a problem with the network - retrying' .
Think Google always says that if it can't figure out what kind of file it is. Download appears to work when I try.
Loneshade wrote: Thu, 28. Mar 19, 01:21 The Teladi have repaired some station parts, but seem unable to replace any station parts destroyed completely. Mine has been in the same state of repair for like 9 days.
That's more than I have observed in my games, in my current universe the little ring and side bits are damaged (station at 93% hull) and has been that way since basically the start of the game. Sector is perfectly safe, TEL are building and repairing normal stations all around it and in neighbouring systems just fine. I've never seen hull % go up on a Teladi trading station or damaged modules be repaired.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

Post by Glasya_25 »

my teladi trading station looks the same.

i guess that it was destroyed by the xenon since this station is right next to gate that leads to a xenon sector.
also the same happend to the trading station in hatikvas choice. it got completly reckt by the xenon...

i think this is a problem relatet to the "make the xenon more of a thread" patch. i dont know about you guys but in my game, the border sectors, if you wanna call them like that. get non-stop invaded by Xenon K's and even I's.
the factions are just unable to keep the defense up or even striking back.
as far as i observed the game, the factions only have a few destroyers each and they will stay near their faction HQ. therefore not really making an effort in pushing the xenon back.
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adeine wrote: Thu, 28. Mar 19, 07:14
That's more than I have observed in my games, in my current universe the little ring and side bits are damaged (station at 93% hull) and has been that way since basically the start of the game. Sector is perfectly safe, TEL are building and repairing normal stations all around it and in neighbouring systems just fine. I've never seen hull % go up on a Teladi trading station or damaged modules be repaired.
My teladi station was down to 23% when I discovered the issue. I then dispatched a few destroyers that now guard the sector.
It still gets damaged once in a while, but the teladi always repair it back to 40%. So I assume the other 60% are the destroyed parts that cannot be replaced.

And yes, HAT and Ianamus Zura trade stations are the ones that keep getting attacked. My HAT station has reconstructed their administrative center multiple times though.
I'll soonish try have the Xenon take out the HAT sector for good though, as I'm planning to relocate my HAT fellows to Silent Witness ;)
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https://i.imgur.com/ETGXvCI.jpg

This is one of the views of my universe's HAT rep-home station's dock. Both look like this after a Xenon attack. It has self-repaired to 99% but this is what it looks like.

If you're careful, you can actually Parkour your way through the rubble (like to get to the Trader booth in order to get to the teleporter so you can access the faction rep), but anywhere that is a hole is an actual hole.

https://i.imgur.com/eJVv5qs.jpg

This is to the left of my parked Pegasus. That hole goes straight down about 5 ship heights, and you can't get out unless you teleport.

I found one that dropped me out of the station.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

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I'm have this problem too. Xenon's destroyed several modules of the station, and the Teladis aren't rebuilding it.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

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Fixed in an upcoming 2.50 build. The station wasn't activly recycling and rebuilding its modules and one of the larger modules plopped away when destroyed, making it look pretty weird.
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Re: Graphic Bug Teladi trading station missing a lot of it's structure/surface

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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Tue, 21. May 19, 13:42 Fixed in an upcoming 2.50 build. The station wasn't activly recycling and rebuilding its modules and one of the larger modules plopped away when destroyed, making it look pretty weird.
Its not fixed at all.
This thread is a year old and I have the exact same problem in my game in April 2020.
you can land on the station if you can make it through the wall of xenon and work out where all the invisible walls are, but this cant be intended.
the bug fest continues.

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