Who exactly is Timelines for? Why would the devs waste time on this vs improving the sandbox?

[Ergoswot]

I am really struggling to see how the Timelines DLC is the DLC that players are wanting or were eve asking for. Players generally want the sandbox to be the best it can possibly be and Egosoft should have stayed committed to focusing on that, because X4 still has a lot of content that could be added and issues that need fixing and improving. The sandbox is the USP of this game and the only reason it is so popular.

This DLC definitely will not be getting my money and it's a shame to see so people here and on Reddit write: "I won't play it but will buy it anyway to support the devs". We should not be rewarding devs by spending our money on things we do not need.

The devs certainly won't be getting my money and I bet will lose out on many other sales too as a result of this really strange decision to take the game in a different and seemingly unasked for direction.

[CBJ]

Let's see. Among other things, X4: Timelines is designed to:

• Introduce players who haven't played all the previous games to some of the interesting events in the history of the X Universe.
• Give players a way to explore aspects of X4 gameplay that they may not have tried, or possibly even don't know about.
• Provide players with a fun way to get a "quick fix" of X when they don't have time to play in sandbox mode.

If none of that appeals to you, and you're not interested in the various bits of additional sandbox content that come along with it, then nobody is forcing you to buy it. However, I suggest you wait until it's out and you've seen what it's actually like in detail before making your decision.

[linolafett]

If you look at the change log for 7.00 you will also see that a large amount of improvements made it into the sandbox.
Even if you dont like the DLC and wont buy it, you will still get a greatly improved product with the release of the DLC and 7.00 update

[alt3rn1ty]

Looking at the Trailer and description on GOG https://www.gog.com/en/game/x4_timelines ..
.. I am pretty sure it was all designed for me, just me, the rest of you can put your wallets away because nobody else will be interested

[Techedge]

I have bought every dlc at release, but it's been years from my last play.

I know I will play again someday, but I want to support Egosoft and I will bought Timeline at day one (plus, I really like the idea to "replay" old scenarios, maybe this dlc will make me play X4 again).

Personally, I feel myself "in debt" with Egosoft because I have played every X game with many hundreds of hours of fun, but always bought them many years after their release, at a very low price. I've promised to myself that this time I would buy X4 and every dlc at day one to show my support, and I will.

So, to the OP, as I said in another post to someone else: just wait for the release, you may find it appealing at the end. Or you may not, but many others will, for the dlc itself or for... reasons you couldn't even imagine.

[Nerwesta]

If you look at the change log for 7.00 you will also see that a large amount of improvements made it into the sandbox.
Even if you dont like the DLC and wont buy it, you will still get a greatly improved product with the release of the DLC and 7.00 update

With all due respect for your wonderful work, this isn't " Timelines " right ?
I think, without having played and without watching any video - I hate it - the DLC is most likely to please people from older games and people who want to give X4 a fresh try.
For these two points I agree you made a bull's-eye, it could be easier for new people to get to this game, however this is still behind a DLC and it's not that easy to steer valuable informations to know that beforehand.
So yeah, for us sandbox enjoyer this is really something to talk about on further people, but I don't think it's that clear for someone casually looking at your game on Steam.

Begs the question, the update itself is wonderful, yet the DLC looks like thiner than Avarice in a Sandbox standpoint.


edit :
From the upper message :

However, I suggest you wait until it's out and you've seen what it's actually like in detail before making your decision.

If I may I already bought it, because I love you guys and what you've came with that game and in a way the whole series, however I think we will see some people being kind of, disoriented on that one. Sandbox means everything to me, that's my personal take at least.

[linolafett]

I personally really enjoy some scenarios in Timelines (the racing), so for me personally it would be worth it

[raUlo]

Exactly how is Egosoft not committed to "improving the sandbox" when the 7.00 patch for the base game is intended exactly at that?

Also if you're not sure what Timelines is about, wait for the release. People are going to talk about it, give reviews, etc. and it'll be quite simple to figure out if it fits your desires.

[CulunTse]

• Provide players with a fun way to get a "quick fix" of X when they don't have time to play in sandbox mode.

As a parent of a one-year-old and a three-year old, I feel highly appreciated by this

I am currently lucky to get a single hour of gaming time, total in a week, usually split in two or three sessions..

It's the same reason I have praised the insane load-time speed ups before: that effectively doubled my "useful" playtime.

Thanks for thinking of me, devs!

[lordmuck]

SNIP
the various bits of additional sandbox content that come along with it
SNIP

Could someone please just list out the additional sandbox content and stop being so hush-hush and top-secret. This would be the thing that would interest me in buying the DLC
Stuff it in a spoiler or in the spoiler forum but inform us please.

[CBJ]

A response was already given by Greg over on the Steam forum and linked the last time you posted this demand.

[lordmuck]

A response was already given by Greg over on the Steam forum and linked the last time you posted this demand.

See hush hush and more secretive stuff, I don't fancy waiting for people to cover the whole DLC and watching anyone, I'd rather know now if this interests me or not and buy it ASAP if I see that I will enjoy the additional content that gets unlocked for the standard universe and play it thanks.

I just read that response and its not a response its just trying to use the excuse of spoiling content. Sorry do not wish to sound like and ass or arrogant and would like to know the product details from the main source than watching someone.

[Newinger]

I am really struggling to see how the Timelines DLC is the DLC that players are wanting or were eve asking for. Players generally want the sandbox to be the best it can possibly be

It is already known from videos and from people who dug in the 7.0 game files that you can unlock ships and new sectors usable in the sandbox, so it should have something for this player type as well.

This said, I don't mind Egosoft trying something new for a change. Being able to re-play key events from the series history makes me quite excited. I played every X game since 1999 and it is just the nostalgia that gets me.

[palm911]

A response was already given by Greg over on the Steam forum and linked the last time you posted this demand.

See hush hush and more secretive stuff, I don't fancy waiting for people to cover the whole DLC and watching anyone, I'd rather know now if this interests me or not and buy it ASAP if I see that I will enjoy the additional content that gets unlocked for the standard universe and play it thanks.

I just read that response and its not a response its just trying to use the excuse of spoiling content. Sorry do not wish to sound like and ass or arrogant and would like to know the product details from the main source than watching someone.

WELL, i think you can wait until content creators give information, i will be supporting egosoft regardless, the ammount of fixes and improvements made to the sandbox and delivered free compels me to keep supporting them even if not all of the content in timelines are totally appealing to me , if you enjoy this game i am pretty sure it will be super nice to support ego with 15 USD. but it is your call!

[alt3rn1ty]

if you enjoy this game i am pretty sure it will be super nice to support ego with 15 USD. but it is your call!

15 notes, is that all it costs?, they dont mention on the GOG site https://www.gog.com/en/game/x4_timelines

[birdtable]

I have been here too many times for impatience to be a problem, I do have the Valentine Card and the shiny pitchfork at hand .. Will it be kisses or jabby jabs.

[alt3rn1ty]

.. Will it be kisses or jabby jabs.

Miss Piggy knows - https://youtu.be/Y-OReMye4TQ

[palm911]

if you enjoy this game i am pretty sure it will be super nice to support ego with 15 USD. but it is your call!

15 notes, is that all it costs?, they dont mention on the GOG site https://www.gog.com/en/game/x4_timelines

was posted by egosoft on the AMA thread here on the forums,. could be even a bit less if you own all the other dlcs (Community of planets) .

so please lets supoprt egosoft!

[mr.WHO]

for me - the make or break for TImelines will be the stuff we will get added to sandbox universe.

From what I see, this DLC already has even less new ships/stations than Tides of Avarice - the only DLC that I reviewed negatively - IMO both ToA and Timelines should be priced half the price of regular/full DLC.


It doesn't bode well for Timelines that in AMA Egosoft laready confirmed Split Colony ship won't be in open universe.
I wonder if Antigone station unique modules will be avaliable or not?

or are there any more ships/station modules that haven't been revealed yet in footage?

[birdtable]

Don't think I will get Timelines, unlike lino the thought of racing fills me with dread ... still waiting for the the true sandbox where I start in a rusty mining ship and a clapped out mining laser looking for ice to trade with... maybe X5
Will take the 7 though, so a jab and a kiss from me and Miss Piggy.