Add Option to play Without the old Ships

[Kabalake]

Hello,

i have the wish to Deaktivate the Old Models of Paranid ships and the old Contructor ships to play Only with the New one.

Possible as Option in a New Gamestart?

[Axeface]

I was going to try to make a mod to get rid of them - I really want them gone. I thin in a new game the blueprints arnt available? Im not sure, but even then are some leftovers in the game like the derelict Odysseus. Really wish that those old ships would just go away.

[Axeface]

Nevermind, I started a new game and the old ships are still there to buy... even the 'E' names remind me of the old ones. I would really suggest that egosoft remove the old ones more thoroughly.

[Kackstift]

My Wharf build nearly 100% of all PAR HOP.. in my game TRI ships and i dont buy the blueprint for the old L and XL ships.. i havent seen a old one since i desided total war for TRI

[CBJ]

As per the forum rules for the Public Beta Feedback forum, feature requests don't belong in there. Moved to the main forum.

[blackphoenixx]

HOP and PAR only build the E models anyway since they were introduced so there's no need to cut them from the game or add the option to do so because they effectively already are.
It's a feature no one needs (or in other words a waste of developer time to implement).
The only way they're showing up in your universe in a new save is if you buy or build them yourself. If you don't want them just ignore them like you do all the other ships you never use.

For constructers there's just new skins for the Heracles, Albatross, Elephant and Kyushu (instead of all builders using the Mammoth model). The old model is still in use for the Mammoth and Gannascus.
Any old builders you have in a save got updated to the new model already if applicable and any new ones you buy will have that model. So there's nothing to remove.

[chew-ie]

I'd also say this is already implemented. Starting a new game will shield you from having to see the old models. And the derelict once can either be used as target practise or left to rot where it is.

[Axeface]

HOP and PAR only build the E models anyway since they were introduced so there's no need to cut them from the game or add the option to do so because they effectively already are.
It's a feature no one needs (or in other words a waste of developer time to implement).
The only way they're showing up in your universe in a new save is if you buy or build them yourself. If you don't want them just ignore them like you do all the other ships you never use.

For constructers there's just new skins for the Heracles, Albatross, Elephant and Kyushu (instead of all builders using the Mammoth model). The old model is still in use for the Mammoth and Gannascus.
Any old builders you have in a save got updated to the new model already if applicable and any new ones you buy will have that model. So there's nothing to remove.

Their presence even just in the menu makes the game feel janky, consistency is important. And the devs (I think) could make the blueprint only show up in the build menu for people that already own it.

[Alan Phipps]

Heh, on this strict basis I should lose my pet Syn (my favourite sector-invader) as the TER gave it to me because the design was obsolete and they didn't really want it any more.

I don't see the problem with seeing old designs in-game myself. Just look on the roads and you will likely see older designs and bodyshapes of current new car models still being driven around.

[Belphegor2_3]

i have the wish to Deaktivate the Old Models of Paranid ships and the old Contructor ships to play Only with the New one.

Possible as Option in a New Gamestart?

As long as this is just an option, I see no reason to oppose. But, well, why ?
As long as I'm concerned I still use the former versions of some of them because they are better for the usage I have. I don't think there is any interest in removing the ones I don't use just because I don't use them.

Out of curiosity, why do you want to remove them of the or your game ?

[jlehtone]

I don't see the problem with seeing old designs in-game myself. Just look on the roads and you will likely see older designs and bodyshapes of current new car models still being driven around.

+1

Their presence even just in the menu makes the game feel janky, consistency is important. And the devs (I think) could make the blueprint only show up in the build menu for people that already own it.

Most of the ship types I never buy, build, have, nor have paid for blueprints. Should Egosoft remove all the types that I don't need?

HOP and PAR only build the E models anyway since they were introduced so there's no need to cut them from the game or add the option to do so because they effectively already are.
It's a feature no one needs (or in other words a waste of developer time to implement).
The only way they're showing up in your universe in a new save is if you buy or build them yourself. If you don't want them just ignore them like you do all the other ships you never use.

I do still have HOP and PAR and hence their "War Guild" missions.
When PAR offers fixed reward Fleet Assembly mission, it continues to request (in 5.10):
1 * Zeus Vanguard
1 * Odysseus E
2 * Gorgon Vanguard

Granted, they are "built by me" (and tend to do something suicidal, so won't linger around long).

[TheDeliveryMan]

HOP and PAR only build the E models anyway since they were introduced so there's no need to cut them from the game or add the option to do so because they effectively already are.
It's a feature no one needs (or in other words a waste of developer time to implement).
The only way they're showing up in your universe in a new save is if you buy or build them yourself. If you don't want them just ignore them like you do all the other ships you never use.

For constructers there's just new skins for the Heracles, Albatross, Elephant and Kyushu (instead of all builders using the Mammoth model). The old model is still in use for the Mammoth and Gannascus.
Any old builders you have in a save got updated to the new model already if applicable and any new ones you buy will have that model. So there's nothing to remove.

Their presence even just in the menu makes the game feel janky, consistency is important. And the devs (I think) could make the blueprint only show up in the build menu for people that already own it.

It would be much consictent if old models would still be flying around on new game starts and ship building would gradually shift towards new models.

[Treycore]

They exist for game compatibility, they will all slowly phase out on their own as the factions won’t build new ones

New game will be all new models

But if your continuing a save from another patch then they will be around til they’re destroyed