Do you want sunlight changes for all sectors, yes or no?

[ColonelBoom]

I'm quite aware of the reasons as of why Egosoft does not do the change.

I found myself trying to play a new X4 game and when i got to see the old sectors it kind of turned me off from it, as it looks like Egosoft caters to certain long time players. This kind of reasoning prevents all kind of future changes to the economy that might improve the game overall. Like for example, adding maintenance/running/upkeep costs for stations/personal introducing an entire new dimension to the X universe.
Additionally it just cuts me off from the immersion...

I just want to know how many people want the change or not, so that i don't get my hopes up.

Thanks

[Falcrack]

Yes, but only if the change applies only to new games, not games in progress. That might mess up some fragile balance for existing stations.

[ZeroAffex]

I am confused. What do you mean sunlight changes for all sectors? Sorry if I am dense on the subject lol Just can't wrap my head around this.

[S!rAssassin]

That might mess up some fragile balance for existing stations.

Exiting stations can be rebuild by player and factions.

[TheDeliveryMan]

Zyarth's Dominion is already buffed in 6.00.

Personally, I would welcome more sunlight changes. A good range would be from 30% to 300%. That would be a huge difference for scrap recycling while energy production for conventional methods would still be viable in most sectors.

I understand that this cannot be done to ongoing playthroughs. Imagine a player who has build a scrap recycling facility with on site energy production in The Reach and suddenly sunlight there is nerved to 30%. They would be really angry at the devs.

[TheDeliveryMan]

I am confused. What do you mean sunlight changes for all sectors? Sorry if I am dense on the subject lol Just can't wrap my head around this.

Each sector has a "sunlight" property that changes the effectivity of solar panels. In Argon Prime (100% sunlight) one solar panel produces 10500 Energy Cells per hour. In Bright Promise one solar panel produces 21000 Energy Cells per hour.

[chew-ie]

Please do, kthxbye.

[Eyeklops]

Yes, but only if the change applies only to new games, not games in progress. That might mess up some fragile balance for existing stations.

I'd be fine with an "opt-in" method for existing saves. This goes for balancing sunlight, turrets stats, carrier S/M ship capacity, etc.

EDIT: Thinking about it more I'm not sure turret stats and ship capacity could be opt-in. That may fragment the playerbase in regards to multi-player content, something Egosoft probably wants to avoid.

[Smart_Bomb]

Yes, but only if the change applies only to new games, not games in progress. That might mess up some fragile balance for existing stations.

+1

[spankahontis]

I am confused. What do you mean sunlight changes for all sectors? Sorry if I am dense on the subject lol Just can't wrap my head around this.

Each Sector has a particular amount of Sunlight the closer to the Sectors Star the gate is? The more energy cells you get from your Solar Arrays.
In Cradle of Humanity, you get about 200% sunlight from Venus, where as Pluto? You get about 5% Sunlight, so Pluto is not an ideal place to build a Solar Array where as Venus? You get double your money.

Before Split Vendetta? All Sectors gave you 100% Sunlight, so you could build a Solar Array anywhere you liked without a penalty.
Just makes Sunlight a strategic resource like Ore, Methane, Silicon Etc.


Personally, I don't Mind losing my Saved Games if it means that each system has different sunlight values, makes the game loads more strategic and fun when you can no longer spam Solar Arrays everywhere.

[jlehtone]

... each system has different sunlight values, makes the game loads more strategic and fun when you can no longer spam Solar Arrays everywhere.

Can? Sure you can.
If you build in the darkness of Kuiper Belt, then why would you not spam the place with arrays to meet the quota?
If you go to bright Avarice, then why would you not spam the place with arrays ... for profitsss?

What the differences in light would give, is an option to haul energy from elsewhere.

[mr.WHO]

I vote yes - it's nothing major, at worst you would have to rearange your solar panel modules or build solar power station somewhere alese.

[ZeroAffex]

Thanks for the explanations Spankahontis and TheDeliveryMan! Makes perfect sense now and went ahead and voted 'yes' just because I prefer as much randomization as possible to keep new games feeling different and fresh. I'd also love to see some randomly generated sectors someday so I can live out my space-explorer fantasies, but I don't want to veer offtopic in going into wants like that. I'll just surmise to say that so long as something like this doesn't affect current saves or as it was suggested, having an opt-in option I'd be fine with it. Might even be a good idea if Egosoft moves forward with this to have it completely optional as not to upset those might be opposed to it being different so everyone is happy. But yeah, I like this idea and support it.

Edit: Oh wow, it's my 50th post! Can't believe it! I came to these forums to post 1 thing to devs like a month ago and can't stop coming back now. I just love it here <3 haha

[Falcrack]

Edit: Oh wow, it's my 50th post! Can't believe it! I came to these forums to post 1 thing to devs like a month ago and can't stop coming back now. I just love it here <3 haha

And in a few years you'll have 4000 posts, and look back at it with a mixture of pride and regret!

[CBJ]

And in a few years you'll have 4000 posts, and look back at it with a mixture of pride and regret!

Don't even...

[Buzz2005]

this forum is imho the best place for actual correct info about this game, its nice and tidy, searchable, devs presence and for x veterans a fond place, worst is steam then reddit, discord is ok also but its for mostly casual and pun talk , and fast answers help to all new and old players

[Falcrack]

And in a few years you'll have 4000 posts, and look back at it with a mixture of pride and regret!

Don't even...

Mostly regret...

[Alan Phipps]

(Nearly 40,000 of CBJ's posts are probably something like: "Read the Sticky called 'Read before Posting' at the top of this forum." ) <Packs bags and leaves.>

[spankahontis]

... each system has different sunlight values, makes the game loads more strategic and fun when you can no longer spam Solar Arrays everywhere.

Can? Sure you can.
If you build in the darkness of Kuiper Belt, then why would you not spam the place with arrays to meet the quota?
If you go to bright Avarice, then why would you not spam the place with arrays ... for profitsss?

What the differences in light would give, is an option to haul energy from elsewhere.

You can most certainly do that, but in the early game? You wont be able to do that as you will run out of credits pretty quick building enough Arrays to give a Wharf and all your factories enough power to mass produce anything. Which is the point.

Faster to Network a bunch of Warehouses to mine basics and have ships move them from Sector to Sector; where they would be delivered to the Wharf.
Much more fun to me to problem solve it that way.

[Waltz9]

Nah. I don't like this idea.
even though it doens't make sense to have 100% sunlight in all sectors. it could have a huge impact on the economy of the game.
Really not a good idea in my opinion.