What version of X4 are you playing

[Ormac]

Slightly OT. Does this mean I need to park my game (started it from release version and then not touched for over a year until 3.0 came along) and start a new game? Not something I'm used to doing (still on my original X3:TC save 13 years later)

I don't think you'll have to start a new game just resume youur release version game at the game version you feel appropriate when you upgrade.

My one release playthrough which I was quite happy with at 3.30 seemed to take the 4.00 improvements (after much obervation) fine. I upgraded it to 4.10 and I HOP lost 2 defence platforms (excess stations?) in Second Contact Flashpoint so theres is the excess stations that will be applied. HOP have anough roaming fleets that the defences stations dont mater they slaughter ANT/ARG Shipping. AN'T (which is the most assertive I've seen them in a while) aretrying to break two HOP Stations in The Void I'll see how that goes

If I wanted to roll back I might pick 4.00 (I then have the option if CoH is enabled or not)

[grapedog]

A state of perpetual war is very nice for my bottom line in this current playthrough of which the only aim is x-treme trader. My original playthrough which has done hundreds of billions of credits of business got torpedoed by the 1.0 requirements for those achievements, which are essentially unobtainable on that save, unless I let it run for like another 45 days and probably do multiple trillions of dollars in transactions.

Slightly OT. Does this mean I need to park my game (started it from release version and then not touched for over a year until 3.0 came along) and start a new game? Not something I'm used to doing (still on my original X3:TC save 13 years later)

I don't believe so... that game is parked now because it was started at 1.0, is like 45 days old, and not much to do. i made the mistake of uniting TRI, eliminating the Xenon, and breaking up the ZYA. There isn't much conflict going on... There isn't much call for ship sales.... plus, since it's an original 1.0 game, the requirements for X-treme achievements are different then they are now I understand. I'll pretty much never get them on that save, even though I have a ridiculous amount of transactions, sales, profits... you name it.

So, I'm taking this current version and gonna milk it for all I can for that achievement. I'm only missing the 2 x-treme achievements. The current patch is an AWESOME one for making money...

[BlackRain]

Playing 4.1 with my own mods and VRO. No issues with Xenon stations or any other stations getting destroyed, plenty of destruction going on.

I was not aware that there are those who do not have the Xenon indestructible station issue plus all the OOS capital ship battles that take hours. I thought everybody had this issue like i do with version 4.10.

Does this mean we are wasting our time waiting for fix for this issue, if the problem is not officially acknowledged.

In my game xenon defence station being attacked by HOP is full of hundreds of dead HOP Capital ships, without a single dent on the station.

I haven't noticed the issue. I mean, VRO makes changes to OOS damage as well as weapons, shields, etc. I have seen a number of defense stations be destroyed OOS. Right now in my game, the Xenon are trying to take over The Void with some success. I mean, it isn't easy for them to destroy a station but it does happen. I am using mods though so I can't comment on the Vanilla game. Also, there could still be an issue but maybe it isn't as bad with VRO, I don't know.

[BlackRain]

A state of perpetual war is very nice for my bottom line in this current playthrough of which the only aim is x-treme trader. My original playthrough which has done hundreds of billions of credits of business got torpedoed by the 1.0 requirements for those achievements, which are essentially unobtainable on that save, unless I let it run for like another 45 days and probably do multiple trillions of dollars in transactions.

Slightly OT. Does this mean I need to park my game (started it from release version and then not touched for over a year until 3.0 came along) and start a new game? Not something I'm used to doing (still on my original X3:TC save 13 years later)

I don't believe so... that game is parked now because it was started at 1.0, is like 45 days old, and not much to do. i made the mistake of uniting TRI, eliminating the Xenon, and breaking up the ZYA. There isn't much conflict going on... There isn't much call for ship sales.... plus, since it's an original 1.0 game, the requirements for X-treme achievements are different then they are now I understand. I'll pretty much never get them on that save, even though I have a ridiculous amount of transactions, sales, profits... you name it.

So, I'm taking this current version and gonna milk it for all I can for that achievement. I'm only missing the 2 x-treme achievements. The current patch is an AWESOME one for making money...

How can there not be enough conflict going on? Also, there are more quests after uniting Paranid into TRI. You can then do quests to get them to go to war with a faction (like argon, Split, Teladi or terran I think)

[grapedog]

Slightly OT. Does this mean I need to park my game (started it from release version and then not touched for over a year until 3.0 came along) and start a new game? Not something I'm used to doing (still on my original X3:TC save 13 years later)

I don't believe so... that game is parked now because it was started at 1.0, is like 45 days old, and not much to do. i made the mistake of uniting TRI, eliminating the Xenon, and breaking up the ZYA. There isn't much conflict going on... There isn't much call for ship sales.... plus, since it's an original 1.0 game, the requirements for X-treme achievements are different then they are now I understand. I'll pretty much never get them on that save, even though I have a ridiculous amount of transactions, sales, profits... you name it.

So, I'm taking this current version and gonna milk it for all I can for that achievement. I'm only missing the 2 x-treme achievements. The current patch is an AWESOME one for making money...

How can there not be enough conflict going on? Also, there are more quests after uniting Paranid into TRI. You can then do quests to get them to go to war with a faction (like argon, Split, Teladi or terran I think)

They can be set to go to war with either 1 faction they share a border with, or with all factions they share borders with. But TRI is massive, and i feel aside from TER, or maybe a ZYA with CUB crushed, no one stands a chance.

In that particular game, TER owned one of the atiyas sectors. So i set TRI to war with TER... TRI booted em out of atiyas, and then that was it. ANT owned frontiers edge and getsu.... TRI never did amything else for their war that i am aware of, either did TER.

It seems like the TRI war option would only be useful against ANT/ARG/TEL, where multiple borders are shared... but none of those races can handle the TRI.

[BlackRain]

I don't believe so... that game is parked now because it was started at 1.0, is like 45 days old, and not much to do. i made the mistake of uniting TRI, eliminating the Xenon, and breaking up the ZYA. There isn't much conflict going on... There isn't much call for ship sales.... plus, since it's an original 1.0 game, the requirements for X-treme achievements are different then they are now I understand. I'll pretty much never get them on that save, even though I have a ridiculous amount of transactions, sales, profits... you name it.

So, I'm taking this current version and gonna milk it for all I can for that achievement. I'm only missing the 2 x-treme achievements. The current patch is an AWESOME one for making money...

How can there not be enough conflict going on? Also, there are more quests after uniting Paranid into TRI. You can then do quests to get them to go to war with a faction (like argon, Split, Teladi or terran I think)

They can be set to go to war with either 1 faction they share a border with, or with all factions they share borders with. But TRI is massive, and i feel aside from TER, or maybe a ZYA with CUB crushed, no one stands a chance.

In that particular game, TER owned one of the atiyas sectors. So i set TRI to war with TER... TRI booted em out of atiyas, and then that was it. ANT owned frontiers edge and getsu.... TRI never did amything else for their war that i am aware of, either did TER.

It seems like the TRI war option would only be useful against ANT/ARG/TEL, where multiple borders are shared... but none of those races can handle the TRI.

I have ANT/ARG allied and in war with TRI, seems to be fine.