station building and rotation

[Halpog]

jesus .... rotation nice and fine yeah .. but how ... holy hell this is absolutly a nogo
we need buttons we can press to use the rotation direction we want ....

like this now the lucky choice of wich rotation we get is awefull and absolutly a nogo.

[Imperial Good]

The rotation angle is based on the camera angle of attack. For example if it is top down it will always rotate on the XZ plane.

[Gavrushka]

The rotation angle is based on the camera angle of attack. For example if it is top down it will always rotate on the XZ plane.

I worked this out, after a long absence from X4, while lubricating my vocal chords with the worlds largest ever gathering of expletives.

[SirConnery]

The rotation angle is based on the camera angle of attack. For example if it is top down it will always rotate on the XZ plane.

If only that was true this nightmare system would be so much better.

In actuality some parts actually rotate on different axises than others depending on the angle. One might rotate the yaw while top down while another part will rotate the pitch.

Have fun building.

[INSANEcyborg]

I've noticed that if parts are attached to something, they'll rotate using the connection instead of the camera.

[Halpog]

oO and i say it again.. we need buttons for the rotation ....button we press to aktivate rotation.. different buttons different roations ....

if the camera angle and pov would be correct i would not have said something at all...
but since parts rotate at the same camera view in different rotations ...well ....
we need buttons to press to define the rotation we wanna use ....^^

[Eyeklops]

oO and i say it again.. we need buttons for the rotation ....button we press to aktivate rotation.. different buttons different roations ....

if the camera angle and pov would be correct i would not have said something at all...
but since parts rotate at the same camera view in different rotations ...well ....
we need buttons to press to define the rotation we wanna use ....^^

Buttons could be useful but I'd be happy with this: When I select a part highlight the current axis of rotation so I can move the camera in a way that selects the axis I want. This would eliminate a ton of confusion.

[Falcrack]

I find the current system for station building and rotating modules intuitive and simple to understand and use. I don't know what you people are complaining about.

[Imperial Good]

My main complaint is that sometimes one module will stick attached at a hard point to another module despite having been physically detached, hard points no longer connecting. Mostly seen when using ctrl to force move modules around, such as when trying to roughly position module sequences to re-attach them for a better construction sequence.

[Y-llian]

From what we’ve had before this is a huge improvement. But I do wish we could rotate modules in any direction inside the plot, instead of having to rotate the plot itself. My main issue with the current rotation system is that it forces design on two planes, instead of solidly using three - getting a solid sense of depth is quite cumbersome and overly fiddly.

[SirConnery]

I find the current system for station building and rotating modules intuitive and simple to understand and use. I don't know what you people are complaining about.

I mean, there were people who found Windows 8 to be a perfectly good operating system so go figure.

[joe2020]

First place the module you want to add in an empty space, make sure module is highlighted in green not red. You cannot place module in all areas, for example if module is too far away or if it intersects a docking lane.
Then left click on the module and hold the button down, module will rotate as you move your mouse. If you want to rotate in 45 degree increments hold shift key down as you move your mouse.
Watch lines pointing to attachment points on other modules as you rotate the free-floating module, that will tell you where you can add the module.
Once attachment line points to the place where you want the module to be stop rotating and drag the module with the right mouse button.
If you make a mistake just left click on the attached module and select remove module. Then you can start again.

[Eyeklops]

First place the module you want to add in an empty space, make sure module is highlighted in green not red.

FYI you can now rotate modules when they are highlighted red. Was a nice change from 4.00 as getting a 3-pier E-dock "green" in the plot just to rotate it was sometimes difficult. Red modules will not be automatically removed unless another module is interacted with.

Also new for 4.10: This update substancially increased the tolerance for when a module is considered "aligned" well enough to snap into place.