Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

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Caedes91
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Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

Post by Caedes91 » Wed, 15. Sep 21, 22:18

The station editor has been changed, so you can no long build modules that occupy the wasted space of the three terran habitats. Please take a look at the screenshots to understand, what I am referring to.
All my terran stations are now obsolete!

Alhough the terran habitats are unique and beautiful in my eyes, they are very inefficient, by taking up too much space in your plot. Therefore I usually design stations in a way, that the production modules "stick" into the unused space between the habitats. Before Update 4.1, this has always worked, without cheesing the editor by, for example, dragging sequences out and back in etc.

I intended to submit my shipyard to the station contest. I was especially proud of my station, because to me, it looked like a very imposing and solid structure, looking like a Headquartes and being symmetrical. In my eyes the terran aesthetic was made with verticality in mind.
And most of all, it was build legit, no clipping modules, each all hand-placed, without having resorting to cheat any "disallowed" modules. But now it is considered impossible by the current game/update, so I refuse to submit this "tainted" station to the contest which awards a real price. Therefore I'm sharing the construction plan here, in case anyone is interested to see or use for the own game. However, do NOT submit it to the contest!!! Only if you change it up sufficiently and make it "legit" again. Otherwise I will report such post.

To Egosoft: Is there a chance, that you revert or tweak the changes, even if it is only for the terran modules? In my opinion you set the "hitbox" (I have no better name for it) too much.
I can understand, if the s-sized habitats are restricted, but not when there is clearly enough room, especially for the m- and L- Terran habitats. I even hopped into a ship to inspect my station close-up. There were no collisions or clipping! I see no reason, why it shouldn't work.

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Full Album: https://imgur.com/a/sCF88vp

Construction plan: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZHH1Hz ... sp=sharing

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Re: Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

Post by Berserk Knight » Wed, 15. Sep 21, 22:45

If they broke THAT, then the Segaris Pioneers need a new HQ as well. (They also make extensive use out of that feature.)

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Re: Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

Post by Imperial Good » Wed, 15. Sep 21, 22:46

You can turn off placement restrictions under the station build settings. This reverts it to pretty much the previous behaviour, possibly minus some broken things like intersecting with docking volumes which would break high attention ship docking.

After feedback during the beta it was decided to both allow sensible module placement, as well as the old free style. Sensible placement is enabled by default. The old free style is available as opt-in under the settings gear icon of the station builder window.

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Re: Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

Post by Caedes91 » Thu, 16. Sep 21, 21:53

Oh my god, sorry for flaming without checking first. Never thought, you would allow both ways as a setting. The changes you made to the station builder do absolutely make sense and I completely agree with them. Most station templates I came across here, make use of these broken ways to stack,for example, pier modules. It looks cool, but it does break docking pathing, if you are in sector.
This is why I am in love with this game so much, even after 3 years it gets fixes and extensive updates. I regret not having discovered the X-series earlier as there is nothing, that comes close to its scale and freedom. Thank you for yor dedication and hard work.

Is there a way to keep the new settings, but only "reduce" the restriction on terran modules a bit?

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Re: Update 4.1 - unable to build modules "between" the empty space of the ring-shaped terran habitats

Post by Imperial Good » Fri, 17. Sep 21, 00:22

Caedes91 wrote:
Thu, 16. Sep 21, 21:53
Is there a way to keep the new settings, but only "reduce" the restriction on terran modules a bit?
Not directly. However, as far as I am aware, you can toggle the setting at will so might be able to turn it off just for those modules. I am not sure if it then starts to force the setting to all existing modules and not just the one trying to be placed.

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