Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Sat, 21. Aug 21, 20:40

Skeeter wrote:
Sat, 21. Aug 21, 19:16
I have wondered, my 6700xt in gpuz says vram bandwidth is like 380 or something which isnt great vs say nvidia cards but i dont think that takes into account the 96mb infinity cache which i think effects the bw to be alot more when in use.

https://www.techarp.com/computer/amd-in ... explained/

I wonder if its used properly in x4?
RDNA1 doesn't have Infinity Cache, yet the GTX1080Ti is 60% faster than the overclocked 5700XT. Something that is not the case in any other game.

Atm thinking to go and open the box to plug the Vega 64 as the PCIe3 8x to test it too. Cannot put it on the normal slot as I have watercooling.

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Sat, 21. Aug 21, 21:34

I know, just wondered if it was a factor for the 6 series of cards or not.
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Eyeklops » Sun, 22. Aug 21, 05:15

Panos wrote:
Wed, 18. Aug 21, 21:28
Btw if anyone reading this and has access to a Radeon VII which is comparable to the 5700XT please run the test to see if it is the vram bus or not.
Results from the Radeon VII
System Specs:
i9-9900KS @ 5.0GHz all cores
32GB 3600MHz RAM
NVMe Samsung SSD
CPU & GPU on water cooling and nowhere near thermal limits.

Lowest framerate was always the Honshu flyby.
2560x1440 144Hz Dual Monitor. Primary monitor for gaming, secondary for system monitoring.
72-108 FPS, ~195 watts GPU usage, ~1750MHz Core, 1200MHz vRAM - Increased vRAM speed and undervolted GPU.
75-113, ~280 watts GPU usage, ~1900MHz Core, 1200MHz vRAM - Heavy overclock with +20% power limit.
68-103, ~190 watts GPU usage, ~1750MHz Core, 1000MHz vRAM - Mostly stock settings except for an undervolted GPU.

I also tested with the CPU @ 5.2 GHz but there was no discernable difference in performance (as expected).

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Sun, 22. Aug 21, 07:51

Eyeklops wrote:
Sun, 22. Aug 21, 05:15
Panos wrote:
Wed, 18. Aug 21, 21:28
Btw if anyone reading this and has access to a Radeon VII which is comparable to the 5700XT please run the test to see if it is the vram bus or not.
Results from the Radeon VII
System Specs:
i9-9900KS @ 5.0GHz all cores
32GB 3600MHz RAM
NVMe Samsung SSD
CPU & GPU on water cooling and nowhere near thermal limits.

Lowest framerate was always the Honshu flyby.
2560x1440 144Hz Dual Monitor. Primary monitor for gaming, secondary for system monitoring.
72-108 FPS, ~195 watts GPU usage, ~1750MHz Core, 1200MHz vRAM - Increased vRAM speed and undervolted GPU.
75-113, ~280 watts GPU usage, ~1900MHz Core, 1200MHz vRAM - Heavy overclock with +20% power limit.
68-103, ~190 watts GPU usage, ~1750MHz Core, 1000MHz vRAM - Mostly stock settings except for an undervolted GPU.

I also tested with the CPU @ 5.2 GHz but there was no discernable difference in performance (as expected).
Thank you. :)
Yep, there is issue with perf on the AMD cards in general, regardless GCN or RDNA1/2.
Hoping Egosoft has some good data to look at the issue. :D

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Sun, 22. Aug 21, 15:57

Dont forget to add the result to the amd thread at amd support forum.

I tried passing this and other issues to a amd rep at ocuk forums, never know might help.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35049727
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Sun, 22. Aug 21, 17:49

Skeeter wrote:
Sun, 22. Aug 21, 15:57
Dont forget to add the result to the amd thread at amd support forum.

I tried passing this and other issues to a amd rep at ocuk forums, never know might help.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35049727
Matt will respond too. If not I will send him an email...... or 1000 :mrgreen:

Hope this is resolved otherwise need to start looking for a RTX3080 closest to MSRP as possible :lol:

(mirror started screaming SHAME, SHAME :oops: )

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Imperial Good » Mon, 23. Aug 21, 08:20

Check AMD GPU performance running the latest beta 4.10 in case there were changes made.

I recall X4 having issues with AMD GPUs in the past, such as graphic bugs and the like. I think the devs mentioned working with AMD to try and solve them. I would not be surprised if the performance issues with the RDNA2 cards are caused by some sort of hack to fix those graphic bugs. This could range from vendor specific shader code to AMD turning off various driver level optimisations for X4.

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Mon, 23. Aug 21, 08:55

Imperial Good wrote:
Mon, 23. Aug 21, 08:20
Check AMD GPU performance running the latest beta 4.10 in case there were changes made.

I recall X4 having issues with AMD GPUs in the past, such as graphic bugs and the like. I think the devs mentioned working with AMD to try and solve them. I would not be surprised if the performance issues with the RDNA2 cards are caused by some sort of hack to fix those graphic bugs. This could range from vendor specific shader code to AMD turning off various driver level optimisations for X4.
My tests are with 4.10 beta 6 and both 21.6 and 21.8 drivers just to be sure and using RDNA1 not 2, so is the other user above using CGN-Vega (Radeon VII).
If needed I will try to see how to fit the Vega64 backup card I have, but need to work around the watercooling loop.

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Mon, 23. Aug 21, 15:02

Always been on the latest betas of 4.10 for awhile, hence why ive been reporting seeing artifacts in them with 21.6.1 and 21.7.x and 21.8.1 drivers. I know x4 has had issues with glow causing artifacts in the past, yet when i report em they seem to not be bothered much.

But along with artifacts reported in other topics, we have this topic questioning amd performance in general for x4.

Something rather serious is going on with x4 and amd cards, either its amd drivers or ego not able to get amd cards working well with vulklan. Or a mix of the two.
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Eyeklops » Mon, 23. Aug 21, 16:43

Same. Tests run with 4.10 beta 6 and either newest, or next newest AMD drivers.

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Mon, 23. Aug 21, 18:35

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35051996

An update of sorts from amd rep.
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Tue, 24. Aug 21, 10:08

Skeeter wrote:
Mon, 23. Aug 21, 18:35
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35051996

An update of sorts from amd rep.
Good one Skeeter

That I do not reply doesn't mean now following both the discussion :)

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Thu, 26. Aug 21, 16:42

Skeeter wrote:
Mon, 23. Aug 21, 18:35
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35051996

An update of sorts from amd rep.
Tested last night on windows with 21.8.2 just in case, no change.
I will test tonight on the fresh Manjaro installation, with latest MESA and 5.14.rc7 kernel

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Thu, 26. Aug 21, 18:25

I tested 21.8.2 too.

Same.

I have tried chill for a change tho, i was sick of the wide disparity between 70fps in space (sometimes) and then on station (can sometimes find a lovely stable high fps station but often its fluctuate city, the varied stations, lol. 30fps - 50 fps (30 alot of the times, depends on the situation at the time, can go up and down like a yo-yo even when nothing seems to be happening). So i thought right the sudden switching of fps is driving me nuts, id rather a consistence frame time so i limited chill to 30-30, it wasnt great but 30-40 was alot smoother, not great but smoother experience than one min 30 then 35 then 40 then 29 then 45 then 35 then 47 etc.

Its a shame i do min install so i dont have game profiles which would be handy atm if i do use chill now for x4, if i did full install then id get em but then i get all the other crap like overlay, relive, and the likes yuk no thanks.
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Thu, 26. Aug 21, 22:35

Skeeter wrote:
Thu, 26. Aug 21, 18:25
I tested 21.8.2 too.

Same.

I have tried chill for a change tho, i was sick of the wide disparity between 70fps in space (sometimes) and then on station (can sometimes find a lovely stable high fps station but often its fluctuate city, the varied stations, lol. 30fps - 50 fps (30 alot of the times, depends on the situation at the time, can go up and down like a yo-yo even when nothing seems to be happening). So i thought right the sudden switching of fps is driving me nuts, id rather a consistence frame time so i limited chill to 30-30, it wasnt great but 30-40 was alot smoother, not great but smoother experience than one min 30 then 35 then 40 then 29 then 45 then 35 then 47 etc.

Its a shame i do min install so i dont have game profiles which would be handy atm if i do use chill now for x4, if i did full install then id get em but then i get all the other crap like overlay, relive, and the likes yuk no thanks.
If I could find an AIB 3080 at MSRP (around £700) would have bought it because I doubt we going to see any AMD perf improvements for months. :cry:

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Fri, 27. Aug 21, 00:15

Skeeter wrote:
Thu, 26. Aug 21, 18:25
I tested 21.8.2 too.
spookywatcher wrote:
Fri, 13. Aug 21, 18:05
I'll test with 1080p in a little while and post those
OK came around to update my Manjaro to latest 21 version including 5.14rc6 kernel, MESA 21.6.1-1, activated nggc at the environmental variables. (next MESA will be using by default ngcc)

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RADV_PERFTEST=nggc 

Set the same undervolt/overclock settings at corectrl as on Windows (to make sure GPU/RAM run at same speed)

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5700XT = 80 fps when the spire & ships appear, 84-85 fps otherwise  (Linux) 
Compared to Windows 10 with 21.6/21.8.1/21.8.2 drivers.

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 5700XT = 70 fps when the spire & ships appear, 80 fps otherwise (windows)

FYI on Linux using MSAA 2x instead of 4x doesn't alter the visuals, they still remain smooth lines contrary to Windows.

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 5700XT = 112 fps when the spire & ships appear, 124 fps otherwise (Linux with MSAA 2x)

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by LameFox » Fri, 27. Aug 21, 16:31

I was getting ~165 with just the station, but dropped to ~135 when the ships flew past. Crept up to 180 as the station was leaving but then dropped to 140 for no apparent reason just as the tail end of it was still there. Got up to 180 again with no station but ships took it down to 175.


system is an i7 10700KF, RX 6900XT (specifically "PowerColor Radeon RX 6900 XT Red Devil OC 16GB" so there is some factory overclocking), 32GB of RAM at 3000MHz CL15. OS is win 10 and GPU drivers are 21.6.1

Monitor is 1440p, technically 144Hz but I have it set to 120Hz as this model gets some weird flickering if your actual FPS exceeds that. It is using Freesync. I have another 1080p monitor doing not much beside holding this thread.


CPU seems content to run at 4.66 GHz. As per my other thread, it is not using hyperthreading, and saw only 20% utilization. In game is at least 3x that without HT.

GPU shows 95%-100% utilization and 1986-1988MHz clock speed.
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Panos » Fri, 27. Aug 21, 20:40

LameFox wrote:
Fri, 27. Aug 21, 16:31
I was getting ~165 with just the station, but dropped to ~135 when the ships flew past. Crept up to 180 as the station was leaving but then dropped to 140 for no apparent reason just as the tail end of it was still there. Got up to 180 again with no station but ships took it down to 175.


system is an i7 10700KF, RX 6900XT (specifically "PowerColor Radeon RX 6900 XT Red Devil OC 16GB" so there is some factory overclocking), 32GB of RAM at 3000MHz CL15. OS is win 10 and GPU drivers are 21.6.1

Monitor is 1440p, technically 144Hz but I have it set to 120Hz as this model gets some weird flickering if your actual FPS exceeds that. It is using Freesync. I have another 1080p monitor doing not much beside holding this thread.


CPU seems content to run at 4.66 GHz. As per my other thread, it is not using hyperthreading, and saw only 20% utilization. In game is at least 3x that without HT.

GPU shows 95%-100% utilization and 1986-1988MHz clock speed.
Thank you :)

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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by Skeeter » Sat, 28. Aug 21, 16:45

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/462 ... -on-an-nvi

any chance this could be related in any way?
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Re: Post your GPU scores - to prep for next gen cpu's I have 1080ti 3080ti 6900xt included

Post by kamov23 » Mon, 30. Aug 21, 06:44

I'm wondering if this is normal for my 3080..I'm getting 175 - 190 fps in the menu. I've seen that the 3080ti gets ~235 and there isn't much difference between the 3080 and ti.

Game specs as per first post. 1440P resolution

CPU: AMD 3700x
RAM: 8 x 4 gb 3600Mhz cl16 (G.Skill Neo)
GPU: EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra

GPU is undervolted and runs at 1890 Mhz. Not undervolted it pulls 300 Watts for the same performance. Undervolted it pulls 240 watts (not all games show such a difference in power usage).
Otherwise i'm thinking of upgrading the cpu to a 5800x but i'm not sure if it's worth it. They are heavily on sale in my area right now.

Cheers! :)

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