Serious Attempt to get into X4 as a Totally Blind Player

[kuertee]

Thank you kuertee, I was taking a break from the game, i'll check the mod and will complain if it still doesn't work!

yes, please. and let me know what you think of (1) the pagination and (2) the "change category" feature.

they came about after i re-tried the OCR reader. i found that
(1) it doesn't notify you that there are more items below the scroll bar and
(2) the horizontal category buttons were truncated and the last buttons were missed.

[oasis1701]

Thank you kuertee, I was taking a break from the game, i'll check the mod and will complain if it still doesn't work!

yes, please. and let me know what you think of (1) the pagination and (2) the "change category" feature.

they came about after i re-tried the OCR reader. i found that
(1) it doesn't notify you that there are more items below the scroll bar and
(2) the horizontal category buttons were truncated and the last buttons were missed.

The change category option is awesome! it is so much better than the previous option.
What does the text at the bottom of the screen mean when it says, page: O or it might be page: 0

[oasis1701]

had a suggestion request
1. Now that the categories have their own page, can there be a page for ships and another page for stations? this will clean up the objects in space page, and it will be easier to find stations and ships without having to go through other objects and the objects in space can have the vaults, asteroids and other things.
2. can there be an indication in the ship list when there's a hostile ship? i can usually find them by pressing the E key, but if i have a pilot flying for me, i can't do that so i have to select the hostile ship from the computer; sometimes it's tough to figure out which one is hostile.

[kuertee]

... What does the text at the bottom of the screen mean when it says, page: O or it might be page: 0

it's for the paginator. i found that the scrollbar wasn't accessible.

had a suggestion request
1. Now that the categories have their own page, can there be a page for ships and another page for stations? this will clean up the objects in space page, and it will be easier to find stations and ships without having to go through other objects and the objects in space can have the vaults, asteroids and other things.
2. can there be an indication in the ship list when there's a hostile ship? i can usually find them by pressing the E key, but if i have a pilot flying for me, i can't do that so i have to select the hostile ship from the computer; sometimes it's tough to figure out which one is hostile.

good suggestions, will do.

[oasis1701]

Hi there

Do we need to complete the player hq story to be able to make stations?
if so do you think it's possible to make the accessibility mod compatible with the story?

[xant]

You can make stations without the hq, but the hq is needed to unlock your research options.

Research unlocks the ability to search for and scan data leaks on station modules, allowing you to get their blueprints without having to buy them. This saves you hundreds of millions of credits. It also bypasses the reputation requirements for certain modules, like the administration module.

HQ research also unlocks the ability to modify ship components, like weapons, engines, turrets or the whole hull.

It is also needed to progress your main story, as the hq is the place where you get your diplomatic advisor. Only through him can you play all main story missions.

[kuertee]

Hi there

Do we need to complete the player hq story to be able to make stations?
if so do you think it's possible to make the accessibility mod compatible with the story?

hey oasis, happy NY.
i'm sorry i missed this message. i've been busy re: modding in the last weeks of last year - trying to get mod stuff out before NY.

but, as xant replied, you can ignore the plot and story missions and build stations wherever - except that that portion of the game, along with shipbuilding, are not accessible.
i have ideas on how to make them accessible and planned* to incorporate them in this accessible mod.
time is the only consideration.

re: plots and story missions:
tldr: you can't do them
long version:
most of the plot and story missions require usual player activities. modt you can currently do now (e.g. repair, talk to, etc.).
when ship building and station building becomes accessible (via this mod), then you you'll be able to do 90% to 99% of the plot and story missions.
SOME may need adjustments.
but at this time, i can only think of one. there could be a handful more, or none more.

[oasis1701]

hey oasis, happy NY.
i'm sorry i missed this message. i've been busy re: modding in the last weeks of last year - trying to get mod stuff out before NY.

but, as xant replied, you can ignore the plot and story missions and build stations wherever - except that that portion of the game, along with shipbuilding, are not accessible.
i have ideas on how to make them accessible and planned* to incorporate them in this accessible mod.
time is the only consideration.

re: plots and story missions:
tldr: you can't do them
long version:
most of the plot and story missions require usual player activities. modt you can currently do now (e.g. repair, talk to, etc.).
when ship building and station building becomes accessible (via this mod), then you you'll be able to do 90% to 99% of the plot and story missions.
SOME may need adjustments.
but at this time, i can only think of one. there could be a handful more, or none more.

Hi there, happy new year!

No worries then i'm still enjoying the game with the things we can do already.
For whenever you have time, I would love though if the hostile ships could be marked in the computer; sometimes they sneak up to me and start firing before i realize that they were angry at me hahahaha.
Thanks!

[kuertee]

...Hi there, happy new year!...No worries then i'm still enjoying the game with the things we can do already....For whenever you have time, I would love though if the hostile ships could be marked in the computer; sometimes they sneak up to me and start firing before i realize that they were angry at me hahahaha....Thanks!

that's great news! the more i mod x4, the more i like it.

i really don't know how Egosoft did it, but i really like how everything is simulated - miners mining, then dropping off their minerals/gas at stations, then stations refining them, then traders shipping them off to factories, etc... my other mod, emergent missions, takes advantage of this to create "true" escort and support missions that eventuate from events in the game.

anyway, here's a new version of Accessibility Features (https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/748) with these changes:
v4.2.07, 17 Jan 2022:
-Bug-fix: Paginator: Page and Previous buttons were not shown properly. In this version, "Page X of Y" is shown. In the previous version, only the first page showed "Page 0" and only the last page had the Previous button.
-Tweak: "Stations In Sector", "Ships In Sector", "Unknown Stations" and "Unknown Ships" are listed in their separate categories.
-Tweak: Enemies are labelled.

[oasis1701]

that's great news! the more i mod x4, the more i like it.

i really don't know how Egosoft did it, but i really like how everything is simulated - miners mining, then dropping off their minerals/gas at stations, then stations refining them, then traders shipping them off to factories, etc... my other mod, emergent missions, takes advantage of this to create "true" escort and support missions that eventuate from events in the game.

anyway, here's a new version of Accessibility Features (https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/748) with these changes:
v4.2.07, 17 Jan 2022:
-Bug-fix: Paginator: Page and Previous buttons were not shown properly. In this version, "Page X of Y" is shown. In the previous version, only the first page showed "Page 0" and only the last page had the Previous button.
-Tweak: "Stations In Sector", "Ships In Sector", "Unknown Stations" and "Unknown Ships" are listed in their separate categories.
-Tweak: Enemies are labelled.

Hi there!
Thanks for this; I do have an issue with the mod, it seems like the enter airlock of <myship> won't work anymore.
The command hangs there and i hear the audio file for when the command is in process for a very long time.
I was able to exit the ship but i can't enter it anymore.
Tried with two different start, same results.

[kuertee]

...Hi there!
Thanks for this; I do have an issue with the mod, it seems like the enter airlock of <myship> won't work anymore.
The command hangs there and i hear the audio file for when the command is in process for a very long time.
I was able to exit the ship but i can't enter it anymore.
Tried with two different start, same results....

oh, weird. because i only changed the lists. i'll have a look now.

[oasis1701]

...Hi there!
Thanks for this; I do have an issue with the mod, it seems like the enter airlock of <myship> won't work anymore.
The command hangs there and i hear the audio file for when the command is in process for a very long time.
I was able to exit the ship but i can't enter it anymore.
Tried with two different start, same results....

oh, weird. because i only changed the lists. i'll have a look now.

Last time i played the game was before the 4.20 update, perhaps something broke at that time? just an idea

[kuertee]

...Last time i played the game was before the 4.20 update, perhaps something broke at that time? just an idea...

If you have the updated game, it should be ok.
I don't think the update to Accessibility Features require any new versions of Mod Support API or any new versions of UI Extensions - especially if Accessibility Features worked before.
But update them anyway.

I just checked in-game and I was able to both spacewalk from the ship and re-enter it with these commands at the top of the Navigation Computer: "Exit X to spacewalk" and "Enter airlock of X".

[oasis1701]

...Last time i played the game was before the 4.20 update, perhaps something broke at that time? just an idea...

If you have the updated game, it should be ok.
I don't think the update to Accessibility Features require any new versions of Mod Support API or any new versions of UI Extensions - especially if Accessibility Features worked before.
But update them anyway.

I just checked in-game and I was able to both spacewalk from the ship and re-enter it with these commands at the top of the Navigation Computer: "Exit X to spacewalk" and "Enter airlock of X".

any ideas on what could be causing my issue? can i read any sort of log to figure out what's going on?

[kuertee]

...any ideas on what could be causing my issue? can i read any sort of log to figure out what's going on?

yeah, you'll need to enable the game's logging feature:
1. add this to the game's launch options: "-debug all -logfile debug.log". if you're playing from steam, the process is: right-click the game. select properties. on the right of the menu, there's a field labeled "launch options".
2. load the game - make the mod fail by exiting your ship, then re-entering it.
3. send me, kuertee@gmail.com, the file "my docs\egosoft\x4\a number assigned to\debug.log".

[oasis1701]

sent two logs.
I do wonder if it's a good idea to reinstall the game or delete the egosoft folder in my documents, if there's something wrong with my game.

edit: reading the log, i wonder if it doesn't like it when i try to enter my ship and there's no AI pilot for it to de-man the ship?

edit2: indeed, if the ship has no captain, it fails to transport you into the pilot seat, but if it has an ai captain, it will de-mann the AI and puts you in the pilot seat so it works that way.
We must have missed this since i played on my save for a long time, in which i had an ai pilot with me at all times

[kuertee]

yup, you're right. i just saw the log and knew instantly that that's what it was. am fixing now and will release in an hour.

[kuertee]

Accessibility features
(for the visually impaired)
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/748
by kuertee

Updates:
========
v4.2.08, 18 Jan 2022:
-Bug-fix: Exiting and entering a ship's airlock was broken if the ship has no AI pilot.

v4.2.07, 17 Jan 2022:
-Bug-fix: Paginator: Page and Previous buttons were not shown properly. In this version, "Page X of Y" is shown. In the previous version, only the first page showed "Page 0" and only the last page had the Previous button.
-Tweak: "Stations In Sector", "Ships In Sector", "Unknown Stations" and "Unknown Ships" are listed in their separate categories.

[oasis1701]

Hi kuertee
Thanks, entering/exiting works perfect now.

Wanted to report another issue and also had a question.
On some of the stations, The Terran ones for example, teleporting to npcs is impossible; the command hangs and this is the error in the log that i get:
[Scripts] 1690.94 *** Context:md.kuertee_accessibility_features.TalkTo_MovePlayerToNPCRoom: $npcSlot_best: <componentslot:0x826dec,con_commander001> (con_commander001), component: 0x826dec, $tags: [tag.npc,tag.service,tag.stand_terminal_forward]
[General] 1690.94 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 1690.94 TransportPlayerToTarget(): Failed to retrieve player floor component
[General] 1690.94 ======================================

It always happens on the Terran wharf and the surrounding stations located in the mars sector, let me know if you need the entire log file.

A question about containers and lootboxes, what's the best way for us to find these so we can get credits and items from them?

[kuertee]

i'll need to find another way to move the player to the npc.
that error occurs if the mod "moves" you to an invalid standing spot - e.g. on a desk.
will try different methods over the week in between my other stuff.

this worked on non-terran stations, right?
that's what i remember from my tests - not on terran stations.