petition to increase supply ships storage
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petition to increase supply ships storage
Currently, supply ships have the following storage space
Atlas Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Atlas Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Monitor: 29,000 m3
Nomad Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Nomad Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Stork Sentinel: 30,000 m3
Stork Vanguard: 25,000 m3
L sized freighters range from 16,000 m3 (Buffalo) to 54,000 m3 (Incarcatura Sentinel). I find it odd that an XL sized ship designed to supply fleets only has about the same amount of storage as an L sized freighter. It is much more expensive than an L sized freighter.
A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Advanced composites: 210
Advanced Electronics: 23
Drone Components: 67
Energy cells: 8403
Hull Parts: 4
Missile Components: 3162
Scanning Arrays: 23
Smart Chips: 4785
Weapon Components: 7
This means that my Atlas Sentinel can supply 79 heavy torpedoes. I have fighters that carry 20 each, so that fully resupplies... 4 fighters.
This is pitifully low, for such a large ship. Egosoft, would you please consider increasing the cargo hold size for supply ships across the board? Thanks.
Atlas Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Atlas Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Monitor: 29,000 m3
Nomad Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Nomad Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Stork Sentinel: 30,000 m3
Stork Vanguard: 25,000 m3
L sized freighters range from 16,000 m3 (Buffalo) to 54,000 m3 (Incarcatura Sentinel). I find it odd that an XL sized ship designed to supply fleets only has about the same amount of storage as an L sized freighter. It is much more expensive than an L sized freighter.
A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Advanced composites: 210
Advanced Electronics: 23
Drone Components: 67
Energy cells: 8403
Hull Parts: 4
Missile Components: 3162
Scanning Arrays: 23
Smart Chips: 4785
Weapon Components: 7
This means that my Atlas Sentinel can supply 79 heavy torpedoes. I have fighters that carry 20 each, so that fully resupplies... 4 fighters.
This is pitifully low, for such a large ship. Egosoft, would you please consider increasing the cargo hold size for supply ships across the board? Thanks.
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If they had more than freighters, they would replace freighters, just more costly. They don't really handle any worse and are pretty quick in travel.
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Maybe combat should be re-balanced first so there's a good enough reason to use supply ships and bombers. Right now I can't think of anything that a group of L destroyers with L plasma turrets wouldn't be able to accomplish better.
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Supply ships are fine. I stick a pair with every Destroyer/Asgard fleet so they keep each other and the ships healed up. No losses in over 300 hours of murdering everything that comes through the gates.
Plus I think the Argon and Teladi Supply ships look cool.
Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
a) You forget Honshu with 43000m3Falcrack wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19Currently, supply ships have the following storage space
Atlas Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Atlas Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Monitor: 29,000 m3
Nomad Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Nomad Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Stork Sentinel: 30,000 m3
Stork Vanguard: 25,000 m3
L sized freighters range from 16,000 m3 (Buffalo) to 54,000 m3 (Incarcatura Sentinel). I find it odd that an XL sized ship designed to supply fleets only has about the same amount of storage as an L sized freighter. It is much more expensive than an L sized freighter.
A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Advanced composites: 210
Advanced Electronics: 23
Drone Components: 67
Energy cells: 8403
Hull Parts: 4
Missile Components: 3162
Scanning Arrays: 23
Smart Chips: 4785
Weapon Components: 7
This means that my Atlas Sentinel can supply 79 heavy torpedoes. I have fighters that carry 20 each, so that fully resupplies... 4 fighters.
This is pitifully low, for such a large ship. Egosoft, would you please consider increasing the cargo hold size for supply ships across the board? Thanks.
b) If you do not want to re-supply the Supply ships on a short operation, dock into them 10 M freighters with the goods needed. 10 Baldrics is 107000m3 while 10 Vulture Sentinels 122400m3 in addition to the Supply ship cargo. There is also 40S ship dock to put 40 Frogs (164800m3).
So you can have a total cap Honshu + 10 Baldric + 40 Frogs of 314800m3 / 190 = 1656 torps.
c) You can use M/S ships with Repeat Order to resupply the Supply Ships from other sectors.
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You forgot that if you fill all of the docking docks with S/M transport ships, where in the hell are to dock the S/M combat ships that are in need of repairs and/or supplies? Is certain that they can be repaired in carriers, but at the same time, those carriers are a bad joke at the moment of resupplying their fighters because of their low cargo bay capacity.Panos wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 12:24a) You forget Honshu with 43000m3Falcrack wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19Currently, supply ships have the following storage space
Atlas Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Atlas Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Monitor: 29,000 m3
Nomad Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Nomad Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Stork Sentinel: 30,000 m3
Stork Vanguard: 25,000 m3
L sized freighters range from 16,000 m3 (Buffalo) to 54,000 m3 (Incarcatura Sentinel). I find it odd that an XL sized ship designed to supply fleets only has about the same amount of storage as an L sized freighter. It is much more expensive than an L sized freighter.
A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Advanced composites: 210
Advanced Electronics: 23
Drone Components: 67
Energy cells: 8403
Hull Parts: 4
Missile Components: 3162
Scanning Arrays: 23
Smart Chips: 4785
Weapon Components: 7
This means that my Atlas Sentinel can supply 79 heavy torpedoes. I have fighters that carry 20 each, so that fully resupplies... 4 fighters.
This is pitifully low, for such a large ship. Egosoft, would you please consider increasing the cargo hold size for supply ships across the board? Thanks.
b) If you do not want to re-supply the Supply ships on a short operation, dock into them 10 M freighters with the goods needed. 10 Baldrics is 107000m3 while 10 Vulture Sentinels 122400m3 in addition to the Supply ship cargo. There is also 40S ship dock to put 40 Frogs (164800m3).
So you can have a total cap Honshu + 10 Baldric + 40 Frogs of 314800m3 / 190 = 1656 torps.
c) You can use M/S ships with Repeat Order to resupply the Supply Ships from other sectors.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
You forgot that 10M/40S is what can go into the internal storage.Pesanur wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 12:40You forgot that if you fill all of the docking docks with S/M transport ships, where in the hell are to dock the S/M combat ships that are in need of repairs and/or supplies? Is certain that they can be repaired in carriers, but at the same time, those carriers are a bad joke at the moment of resupplying their fighters because of their low cargo bay capacity.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
Recommend not using default automatic settings for parts. They'll fill your ship with all sorts of stuff not required for missile production. Complete waste of space if you're not interested in supplying anything other than missiles. I have the trade settings on my Honshu set to my 'no trade at all' trade rule for everything except missile components, smart chips & energy cells (they're set to 'my faction only'). I keep those parts stocked in appropriate proportions for making Heavy Starburst missiles. It's currently got sufficient stocks to make over 1,000 of them...
Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
These are in the ship storage, resupplying combat ships do not count on that capacity.Pesanur wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 12:40You forgot that if you fill all of the docking docks with S/M transport ships, where in the hell are to dock the S/M combat ships that are in need of repairs and/or supplies? Is certain that they can be repaired in carriers, but at the same time, those carriers are a bad joke at the moment of resupplying their fighters because of their low cargo bay capacity.Panos wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 12:24a) You forget Honshu with 43000m3Falcrack wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19Currently, supply ships have the following storage space
Atlas Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Atlas Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Monitor: 29,000 m3
Nomad Sentinel: 34,800 m3
Nomad Vanguard: 29,000 m3
Stork Sentinel: 30,000 m3
Stork Vanguard: 25,000 m3
L sized freighters range from 16,000 m3 (Buffalo) to 54,000 m3 (Incarcatura Sentinel). I find it odd that an XL sized ship designed to supply fleets only has about the same amount of storage as an L sized freighter. It is much more expensive than an L sized freighter.
A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Advanced composites: 210
Advanced Electronics: 23
Drone Components: 67
Energy cells: 8403
Hull Parts: 4
Missile Components: 3162
Scanning Arrays: 23
Smart Chips: 4785
Weapon Components: 7
This means that my Atlas Sentinel can supply 79 heavy torpedoes. I have fighters that carry 20 each, so that fully resupplies... 4 fighters.
This is pitifully low, for such a large ship. Egosoft, would you please consider increasing the cargo hold size for supply ships across the board? Thanks.
b) If you do not want to re-supply the Supply ships on a short operation, dock into them 10 M freighters with the goods needed. 10 Baldrics is 107000m3 while 10 Vulture Sentinels 122400m3 in addition to the Supply ship cargo. There is also 40S ship dock to put 40 Frogs (164800m3).
So you can have a total cap Honshu + 10 Baldric + 40 Frogs of 314800m3 / 190 = 1656 torps.
c) You can use M/S ships with Repeat Order to resupply the Supply Ships from other sectors.
Also the purpose of it is to supply the ship with M/S freighters from other sectors. Not use it without re-supply. The game mechanics allow to do so.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
Resupply ships storage is a joke for resupply of heavy missiles and torpedoes...I don't understand why is so low? For balance?...there are other easier ways to have an op fleet without involving restocking torpedoes or missiles...low supply ships storage only makes more micro intensive the resupply of bombers and missile ships.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
I say all L and XL ships should have more the 4 times their storage.
5 M Cargo ships together have more storage than any L or XL ship, but are really small in comparison.
5 M Cargo ships together have more storage than any L or XL ship, but are really small in comparison.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
I put everything side by side and did some comparisons about 2 years ago.ubuntufreakdragon wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 15:21I say all L and XL ships should have more the 4 times their storage.
5 M Cargo ships together have more storage than any L or XL ship, but are really small in comparison.
My estimate was roughly x10 of what they currently are. (Which, of course, I immediately modded.)
M cargo ships have these tiny container bits on them, which would be their cargo space.
L cargo ships...well, you could put M cargo ships (ENTIRE ships, not just their cargo containers) inside the visible storage compartments to match the L ship's storage capacity and still have space left over.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
The way round this is to build my Advanced Battle supply station, this you can find in the community station plan’s. ( in the Forum )
The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.
All part of planing your attack forces, !
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The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.
All part of planing your attack forces, !
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Poor Planing = Piss Poor Performance.
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
Sorry, forgot to say the plans are in
All Sorts
in the communitys plans part of the Forum.
oops.
All Sorts
in the communitys plans part of the Forum.
oops.
Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
Errmm.. Supplyships aren't fast at all, in any aspect. When i move my fleets, the <insert supplyship> is always slowboating far behind
to the point where it's actually been caught at gates getting shot by enemies that arrived after the rest of the fleet continued to destination.
And on topic - yes in my opinion an XL Fleetsupply ship should have enough cargospace to actually supply a fleet for a long period,
without having to "dock up" to resupply itself. Currently a fleetsupply ship can't even supply 10 fighters with torps - that's bad.
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I thought you were a pacifist who never equipped a gun on any of your ships?Nort The Fragrent wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 20:24The way round this is to build my Advanced Battle supply station, this you can find in the community station plan’s. ( in the Forum )
The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.
All part of planing your attack forces, !
The old army Adige of the 5 P’s
Poor Planing = Piss Poor Performance.
Get your self organised.
Re: petition to increase supply ships storage
I'm curious about this myself...Falcrack wrote: ↑Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:07I thought you were a pacifist who never equipped a gun on any of your ships?Nort The Fragrent wrote: ↑Sun, 13. Jun 21, 20:24The way round this is to build my Advanced Battle supply station, this you can find in the community station plan’s. ( in the Forum )
The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.
All part of planing your attack forces, !
The old army Adige of the 5 P’s
Poor Planing = Piss Poor Performance.
Get your self organised.
If you want a different perspective, stand on your head.
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Point of supply ships is to be SUPPLIED too by M/S freighters. The mechanics are there to do so. And as wrote above the actual capacity of the supply ships is 5x higher if you use the mechanics.Dreez wrote: ↑Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:01Errmm.. Supplyships aren't fast at all, in any aspect. When i move my fleets, the <insert supplyship> is always slowboating far behind
to the point where it's actually been caught at gates getting shot by enemies that arrived after the rest of the fleet continued to destination.
And on topic - yes in my opinion an XL Fleetsupply ship should have enough cargospace to actually supply a fleet for a long period,
without having to "dock up" to resupply itself. Currently a fleetsupply ship can't even supply 10 fighters with torps - that's bad.
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I'd certainly like some pre-set options for my supply ships. Like if I'm not using missiles at all... and it's just a supply ship for a group of say 5-10 destroyers for repairs and restocking. That would be nice... I pretty much never use missiles on anything, so just eliminating that from my supply ships would be cool.
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