petition to increase supply ships storage

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How much would you like to increase supply ship size by?

>4X
2
9%
4X
2
9%
3X
9
39%
2X
3
13%
1.5X
2
9%
no increase is needed
5
22%
 
Total votes: 23

Falcrack
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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by Falcrack » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:07

Nort The Fragrent wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 20:24
The way round this is to build my Advanced Battle supply station, this you can find in the community station plan’s. ( in the Forum )
The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.

All part of planing your attack forces, !

The old army Adige of the 5 P’s

Poor Planing = Piss Poor Performance. :(

Get your self organised. :gruebel:
I thought you were a pacifist who never equipped a gun on any of your ships?

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by KextV8 » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 01:53

Dreez wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:01
Errmm.. Supplyships aren't fast at all, in any aspect.
They aren't really any slower than L Freighters is what I was saying.

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by Slashman » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 03:24

Falcrack wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:07
Nort The Fragrent wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 20:24
The way round this is to build my Advanced Battle supply station, this you can find in the community station plan’s. ( in the Forum )
The station is specifically to resupply the resupply ships.
Although you will need a raft of freighters to keep the station full.

All part of planing your attack forces, !

The old army Adige of the 5 P’s

Poor Planing = Piss Poor Performance. :(

Get your self organised. :gruebel:
I thought you were a pacifist who never equipped a gun on any of your ships?
I'm curious about this myself...
If you want a different perspective, stand on your head.

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by Panos » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 07:34

Dreez wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 00:01
KextV8 wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:44
If they had more than freighters, they would replace freighters, just more costly. They don't really handle any worse and are pretty quick in travel.
Errmm.. Supplyships aren't fast at all, in any aspect. When i move my fleets, the <insert supplyship> is always slowboating far behind
to the point where it's actually been caught at gates getting shot by enemies that arrived after the rest of the fleet continued to destination.

And on topic - yes in my opinion an XL Fleetsupply ship should have enough cargospace to actually supply a fleet for a long period,
without having to "dock up" to resupply itself. Currently a fleetsupply ship can't even supply 10 fighters with torps - that's bad.
Point of supply ships is to be SUPPLIED too by M/S freighters. The mechanics are there to do so. And as wrote above the actual capacity of the supply ships is 5x higher if you use the mechanics.

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by grapedog » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 09:15

I'd certainly like some pre-set options for my supply ships. Like if I'm not using missiles at all... and it's just a supply ship for a group of say 5-10 destroyers for repairs and restocking. That would be nice... I pretty much never use missiles on anything, so just eliminating that from my supply ships would be cool.

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by xWolfzx » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:26

Falcrack wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19

A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Wait... you are telling me ONE heavy torpedo require 190m3 of components? Say the energy cells and smart chips are packed inside the torpedo and I only account for the missile components, doesn't 80m3 sounds a tad too big? I mean a sidewinder is approx 6 m3 and even a medium range ballistic missile eg a DF-21 is only around 20 m3... and a S ship can carry scores of those? It sound like one S ship can easily destroy a quite a few cities in a single run. (Do correct me if my calculations/understanding are wrong, I just quickly looked things up and did some quick math)

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by Panos » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:34

xWolfzx wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:26
Falcrack wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19

A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Wait... you are telling me ONE heavy torpedo require 190m3 of components? Say the energy cells and smart chips are packed inside the torpedo and I only account for the missile components, doesn't 80m3 sounds a tad too big? I mean a sidewinder is approx 6 m3 and even a medium range ballistic missile eg a DF-21 is only around 20 m3... and a S ship can carry scores of those? It sound like one S ship can easily destroy a quite a few cities in a single run. (Do correct me if my calculations/understanding are wrong, I just quickly looked things up and did some quick math)
Depends the size of the torpedo and do not compare with real life.
In EVE Online we have 1400mm (1.4 metres) artillery, which means it is throwing a whole car. :mrgreen:

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by xWolfzx » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:54

Panos wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:34
xWolfzx wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 10:26
Falcrack wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 06:19

A heavy torpedo takes 40 energy cells (40 m3), 40 missile components (80 m3), and 35 smart chips (70 m3), for a total volume of 190 m3. My Atlas Sentinel has an automatic loadout of the following:
Wait... you are telling me ONE heavy torpedo require 190m3 of components? Say the energy cells and smart chips are packed inside the torpedo and I only account for the missile components, doesn't 80m3 sounds a tad too big? I mean a sidewinder is approx 6 m3 and even a medium range ballistic missile eg a DF-21 is only around 20 m3... and a S ship can carry scores of those? It sound like one S ship can easily destroy a quite a few cities in a single run. (Do correct me if my calculations/understanding are wrong, I just quickly looked things up and did some quick math)
Depends the size of the torpedo and do not compare with real life.
In EVE Online we have 1400mm (1.4 metres) artillery, which means it is throwing a whole car. :mrgreen:
You do not even need to compare it with real life, just look at a S torpedo launcher in-game, how is the torpedo going to fit the launcher? It doesn't matter if you have a 1400mm arty as long as the size is correct.

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by Raevyan » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 12:21

ubuntufreakdragon wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 15:21
I say all L and XL ships should have more the 4 times their storage.
5 M Cargo ships together have more storage than any L or XL ship, but are really small in comparison.
But if you multiply the storage of all L and XL you end up with ships that barely use their cargo hold to its potential. There are only very few wares that stations can buy in bulk to fill their cargo. More often than not they still don’t use it because trading ai is ...

OP: yeah, they should up the storage. Makes no sense that the resupply can just supply 4 fighters worth of torpedos/missiles...

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Re: petition to increase supply ships storage

Post by ubuntufreakdragon » Mon, 14. Jun 21, 14:05

rene6740 wrote:
Mon, 14. Jun 21, 12:21
ubuntufreakdragon wrote:
Sun, 13. Jun 21, 15:21
I say all L and XL ships should have more the 4 times their storage.
5 M Cargo ships together have more storage than any L or XL ship, but are really small in comparison.
But if you multiply the storage of all L and XL you end up with ships that barely use their cargo hold to its potential. There are only very few wares that stations can buy in bulk to fill their cargo. More often than not they still don’t use it because trading ai is ...

OP: yeah, they should up the storage. Makes no sense that the resupply can just supply 4 fighters worth of torpedos/missiles...
Well stations Container storgage modules need an increasement, too.
That would fix may issues the station AI has ATM.
to make it clear, an Argon, Teladi, Para,Split Containermodule offers:
S: 25000 M: 100000 L: 1000000
A Terran Module gives you:
S: 100000 M: 500000 L: 1000000
My X3 Mods

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In General; On Firing NPC's; In De Vries; Out Of Zone; And the Antiwishlist

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