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Re-skin the Paranid capitals ?.
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I like the 'shrooms. They make sense in a apace environment with dorsal ventral port starboard symmetry, that front shield facing the enemy taking punishment also makes sense and they look like they were crafted with some thought.
I agree the Paranid ships are consistent with X2 ! But IMHO they look a bit rushed in the way they are built out of oblate spheroids with no discernable design philosophy. Its not a high priority, I just dont use them except the Nemesis which does look cool and not at all blimpy, which si why they look cool, also the salvageable Perseus which is worth having since its free and looks a bit like the Cylon raiders from BSG TOS.
All the others have some kind of philosophy. Teladi its commercially functional & defensive, Terrans are like city architecture - glass and steel skyscrapers in space reflecting the urbanised homeworld of humanity, Split ships look fast like arrows and are fast, Argon are structurally credible with an hint of engineering in the designs which I like despite the unsurvivably low speeds of their unmodified fighters.
Many larger Paranid ships on the other hand are nondescript blimps. My guess would be it was possibly an attempt to reach the idea of religiously inspired aesthetics of smoothness but it does not really work as they all look like blow moulded plastic bath toys. On the other hand I do quite like the more elegant organic forms of the Paranid station parts and feel that they ought to use that approach for their ships and go for elegant religious aesthetics blended with effective technology look. Not bath toys.
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I hate the Teladi mushroom ships, I like the Paranid designs. You feel the opposite. It is all subjective.Submarine wrote: ↑Thu, 3. Jun 21, 00:14
I like the 'shrooms. They make sense in a apace environment with dorsal ventral port starboard symmetry, that front shield facing the enemy taking punishment also makes sense and they look like they were crafted with some thought.
I agree the Paranid ships are consistent with X2 ! But IMHO they look a bit rushed in the way they are built out of oblate spheroids with no discernable design philosophy. Its not a high priority, I just dont use them except the Nemesis which does look cool and not at all blimpy, which si why they look cool, also the salvageable Perseus which is worth having since its free and looks a bit like the Cylon raiders from BSG TOS.
All the others have some kind of philosophy. Teladi its commercially functional & defensive, Terrans are like city architecture - glass and steel skyscrapers in space reflecting the urbanised homeworld of humanity, Split ships look fast like arrows and are fast, Argon are structurally credible with an hint of engineering in the designs which I like despite the unsurvivably low speeds of their unmodified fighters.
Many larger Paranid ships on the other hand are nondescript blimps. My guess would be it was possibly an attempt to reach the idea of religiously inspired aesthetics of smoothness but it does not really work as they all look like blow moulded plastic bath toys. On the other hand I do quite like the more elegant organic forms of the Paranid station parts and feel that they ought to use that approach for their ships and go for elegant religious aesthetics blended with effective technology look. Not bath toys.
And whats happened to the Borons? Where is my bofu?
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I don’t like their designs, Oddy especially. I think it’s because of a dissonance between their smooth, sleek and featureless metal hull and huge, intrusive surface elements sticking out everywhere, like L turrets and M landing pad on an Oddy. It looks weird. Maybe that’s why I liked PAR designs in X3 much more. Hairdryer design… not sure, maybe it’d look fine without oversized surface elements everywhere.
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Agree!!!sh1pman wrote: ↑Thu, 3. Jun 21, 01:20I don’t like their designs, Oddy especially. I think it’s because of a dissonance between their smooth, sleek and featureless metal hull and huge, intrusive surface elements sticking out everywhere, like L turrets and M landing pad on an Oddy. It looks weird. Maybe that’s why I liked PAR designs in X3 much more. Hairdryer design… not sure, maybe it’d look fine without oversized surface elements everywhere.
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Can't argue with that!
Well you could but it would be a fools errand.
Its all part of the rich tapestry etc...
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I think it’s very clear a vast majority of the players are not happy with the paranid design... no need to argue here.
I think not only a redesign would be really appreciated, also adding some L and XL ships variety to pre DLC races should be in the table.
Terran get the Asgard ... give something equivalent to the others. Maybe not like it ... I am fine with a smaller ship that cost half but you can use 2 to confer the Asgard. Not everything must be balanced but at least something must exist.
I think not only a redesign would be really appreciated, also adding some L and XL ships variety to pre DLC races should be in the table.
Terran get the Asgard ... give something equivalent to the others. Maybe not like it ... I am fine with a smaller ship that cost half but you can use 2 to confer the Asgard. Not everything must be balanced but at least something must exist.
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The M landing pad is fine. But I agree on the L turrets.sh1pman wrote: ↑Thu, 3. Jun 21, 01:20I don’t like their designs, Oddy especially. I think it’s because of a dissonance between their smooth, sleek and featureless metal hull and huge, intrusive surface elements sticking out everywhere, like L turrets and M landing pad on an Oddy. It looks weird. Maybe that’s why I liked PAR designs in X3 much more. Hairdryer design… not sure, maybe it’d look fine without oversized surface elements everywhere.
Instead I think a better avenue would be redesigning the turrets instead, currently most of them look the exact same.
Also I find it funny no one comments on how out of place other faction L turrets look on the Rattlesnake. I've taken to loading them with SPL L turrets instead because the design is clearly designed with those in mind.
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The Odysseus has very poorly integrated modules, rectangular cutouts for turrets and the dock doesn't fit it's overall sleek curvy design, it is also too narrow which makes it look fat because of the dock. Also that huge L turret sticking out of the nose is ugly as hell too.
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The Perseus looks like the Bat Wing, most aesthetic fighter of the bunch.
A Xenon Version of the Asgard's Main Cannon? Then you're talking! With it's own Fighter Carrier like in previous X's.Sanshy wrote: ↑Thu, 3. Jun 21, 16:20I think it’s very clear a vast majority of the players are not happy with the paranid design... no need to argue here.
I think not only a redesign would be really appreciated, also adding some L and XL ships variety to pre DLC races should be in the table.
Terran get the Asgard ... give something equivalent to the others. Maybe not like it ... I am fine with a smaller ship that cost half but you can use 2 to confer the Asgard. Not everything must be balanced but at least something must exist.
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agree!Pares wrote: ↑Thu, 3. Jun 21, 23:35The Odysseus has very poorly integrated modules, rectangular cutouts for turrets and the dock doesn't fit it's overall sleek curvy design, it is also too narrow which makes it look fat because of the dock. Also that huge L turret sticking out of the nose is ugly as hell too.
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They look like a modified X3 model used as a placeholder. When I first saw them at release I was convinced they forgot to update the model..
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Every time I see the old Boot Ship, I cringe. Ain’t she an ugly bitch.
Then Laugh, as it looks so stupid, and a joke.
The Odysseus looks like a pregnant penguin, with no tail, clipped wings. And a cancerous growth underneath.
The Chthonios gas, looks like a shark has taken two bits out of it, and is bloated.
Helios, almost passable, yet dull.
Selene, just works for looks but again is bland.
Zeus, Too short, Too wide, Bland and Dull.
Atlas, Neat, Nice, but a little bland.
Heracles, Well ! That is such a popular ship ! All races have that very same design. ! ! ! Cheep, cop out ES.
Gorgon, Is Gorgeous.
Nemesis, Mean looking, ok.
Plutus, Ok, but not right !
Demeter, needs work !
Hermes, same as Demeter !
Pegasus, so out of proportion, stupid nose,
Perseus, ?
Theseus, is a Pegasus, with Paravanes attached !
Tethys, ? Is it a Biscuit ?
This range of ships needs some real love, like putting into a chrysalis, allowing to ferment. Then may be some Butterflies might emerge.
You can do better ES.
Then Laugh, as it looks so stupid, and a joke.
The Odysseus looks like a pregnant penguin, with no tail, clipped wings. And a cancerous growth underneath.
The Chthonios gas, looks like a shark has taken two bits out of it, and is bloated.
Helios, almost passable, yet dull.
Selene, just works for looks but again is bland.
Zeus, Too short, Too wide, Bland and Dull.
Atlas, Neat, Nice, but a little bland.
Heracles, Well ! That is such a popular ship ! All races have that very same design. ! ! ! Cheep, cop out ES.
Gorgon, Is Gorgeous.
Nemesis, Mean looking, ok.
Plutus, Ok, but not right !
Demeter, needs work !
Hermes, same as Demeter !
Pegasus, so out of proportion, stupid nose,
Perseus, ?
Theseus, is a Pegasus, with Paravanes attached !
Tethys, ? Is it a Biscuit ?
This range of ships needs some real love, like putting into a chrysalis, allowing to ferment. Then may be some Butterflies might emerge.
You can do better ES.
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lol, loved your comparisons! so true. Paranid S fighters look dumb as well. Like mosquito-hummingbird hybrids. Of all S fighters, only Split ones look consistently good. Don’t like the new Terran nonsense, bring me my X3 Terran fighter designs back!
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Well I was just stood on the docking area at the back of one of my Zeus carriers. Enjoying the view of the defending ships docked there.
I was just thinking that this is about as good as it gets. I don't care what anybody else thinks. I like the ships in the game.
I was just thinking that this is about as good as it gets. I don't care what anybody else thinks. I like the ships in the game.
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If you can distract your foe and make them underestimate your Power, then you are one step closer to victory.Nort The Fragrent wrote: ↑Sat, 5. Jun 21, 02:32Every time I see the old Boot Ship, I cringe. Ain’t she an ugly bitch.
Then Laugh, as it looks so stupid, and a joke.
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X3 Terran fighters were trash though. Like little bugs.
ATF ones were okay.
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Wa-waat? Machete was awesome both in design and combat power. I also liked the other UCS fighters - especially the Rapier. It looked like a rocket with all those engines ATF design was okay for being made by the modding community - but it isn't consistent and does have flaws. I like Linos new take in X4 waaay better.Raptor34 wrote: ↑Sun, 6. Jun 21, 14:04X3 Terran fighters were trash though. Like little bugs.
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That's why I don't like it. And Machete? I don't remember that. Translation or mod?chew-ie wrote: ↑Sun, 6. Jun 21, 14:15Wa-waat? Machete was awesome both in design and combat power. I also liked the other UCS fighters - especially the Rapier. It looked like a rocket with all those engines ATF design was okay for being made by the modding community - but it isn't consistent and does have flaws. I like Linos new take in X4 waaay better.
And by the community? I thought they were just evolutions of the fighters in X3R.