Will we get an info about next step/dlc in August?

[chew-ie]

So, years and years more to wait for boron

Aye, no fishies for some more time it seems.

[grapedog]

Unless they make boron a pirate faction!!!???

[Artean]

I'm all for beefing up the pirate factions into something more challenging and interesting.

[Jeraal]

I hope they change the name, lol... that's just terrible

How about "X4: Yar-Har-Har!!!"?

X4: Why is the spacefuel gone?

[mr.WHO]

Well, pirates were on my guess list alternative if Borons will not be next DLC.

Ahoy is rather fitting title.

I'm not hyped, but as long as they add new sectors, new ships, new factions and new plots and PIRATE ALLEYS, then I welcome it and be happy to put my money in it.
Seems like with X4 Egosoft finally nailed the sweet spot of consistent quality DLCs.



BTW, here is my bet on DLC4 - no it wont be Borons, it will be Corporations (with Stock Market).

BTW2 - the ship in the screenshot looks wicket!

[grapedog]

As long as a pirate DLC offers a way to truly manage pirate reputations. I could buy shifting a few percent of certain earnings to have pirates not target my ships, or perform things like missions/plot, and later terraforming, to have them as allies.

And i would love to see later, coorporations pushing factions for control. Could also make sector ownership a lot more of an important thing. Each faction loses some territory, companies gain some, war war war!!!

[mr.WHO]

Am I reading it correctly:

Laufzeit: von 15.02.2021 bis 14.09.2021


Could it possibly mean we could expect the DLC3 already this year?

[Skeeter]

If a pirate faction then make some pirate life as in a pirate base with good interior that looks like its for pirates no copy n paste and full of pirates playing music, neon lights, strip club and bar and pool and poker. Add a special option when in a ship so when you comm others surrender actually might work based off a threat detection script based on u vs the ship ur wanting to loot. Also a bribe function so if you comm someone shooting u u can bribe em to let you go or to increase rep temporarily till you can escape the sector.

Needs some wicked skins for ships with nice decals not just the design but textures need to look like im gona kill you or loot you, looks.

Lots of pirate chat and comm voiced.

No need for many more sectors just a few hidden ones to find, pirates are not about new places just hidy places really imo. No need for a shared economy to build stuff either as the idea is to sod making anything and to steal it.

[TheDeliveryMan]

Am I reading it correctly:

Laufzeit: von 15.02.2021 bis 14.09.2021


Could it possibly mean we could expect the DLC3 already this year?

For CoH it was:

Laufzeit von 01.06.2020 bis 31.12.2020

https://www.bmvi.de/SharedDocs/DE/Artik ... /x4wm.html

[grapedog]

Maybe capturing escape pods can be a thing again? I always enjoyed selling all the spoils of war, including slaves, when i was playing less ethical playthroughs... especially selling captured thieving pirate bastards back to other pirates. Very karmic and cathartic...

Also hopefully some better interactions with regards to hacking stations. Perhaps hacking storage for pirates can have them come in and pick up the spoils, send you some credits down the line when they sell em.

[jlehtone]

If a pirate faction then make some pirate life as in a pirate base with good interior that looks like its for pirates no copy n paste and full of pirates playing music, neon lights, ...

The description of funding mentions European Comission(?) and something something:

Nach den Vorgaben der Europäischen Kommission muss ein Computerspiel einen Kulturtest bezüglich des Spielinhalts und des kulturellen Hintergrunds als Fördervoraussetzung bestehen.

Are neon lights, etc what that "kulturellen Kulturtest" demands?

[vadiolive]

Interresing fact its near double money compare CoH

https://www.bmvi.de/SharedDocs/DE/Artik ... -ahoy.html 381k
https://www.bmvi.de/SharedDocs/DE/Artik ... /x4wm.html 194k

However as usual problem relay in finds skilled persons...
In other hands..... you can hire alot modders to do full time job to more cheap with enough experience in x4-scripts
and invest you time improve engine in overall

My2cent

[mr.WHO]

Comparing the Laufzeit betwen this and CoH it seem they aim for Christmass time release and are worknig on since February.

I think it's not the money but time and manpower which will be constraining factor.

[Buzz2005]

we kind of got used to March release, I bet it will be the same again, we aim for Christmas but delay it until Q1 2022

[jlehtone]

Interresing fact its near double money compare CoH

Wasn't there a mention that the funding model was only piloting last year and there was a 200k cap in the pilot?

[Karvat]

"Significant expansion of the game universe"
And then we only get +18 sectors...
Please Egosoft, more, mooooreee

[Axeface]

Hopefully that large influx of cash on top of selling the actual game and dlc will mean egosoft can hire some more people for improving the game while also adding content. People to make VFX for example, that I think might currently be done by 3d artists (lino)? Sound fx people too?

And obviously I am livid that its not the boron, more money could = more possibility of boron yes? And faster...

I also hope that the pirate expansion adds pirates outside of cartels. Currently we really dont have anything that to me would count as a traditional scoundrel. Organised crime and cartels yes, but malcolm reynolds, independant freebooter, random gang of murderers that managed to get some ships? Non-existant. The SCA being a faction in itself lends them to something other than what I think is a traditional pirate, egosoft attempted to fix this issue by locking their rep, but its a bit of an odd fix... What I mean is that I want egosoft to add the concept of factionless/independant npcs - some of these could be pirates, smuggers, bounty hunters etc - and some of them could be law abiding. Faction-less ships could give us quite a few extra options in the game.

"Significant expansion of the game universe"
And then we only get +18 sectors...
Please Egosoft, more, mooooreee

18 is more than enough. If playing X3FL has taught me anything its that there is such a thing as too many sectors and redundancy. Good sectors please, I dont care how many there are, just that they are interesting (Rebirth did this right, but then made the huge mistake of not allowing these sectors to develop outside of player hands...).

[spankahontis]

- NPC Pirate Factions that do Boarding Ops to justify buying Marines to protect your larger vessels?
- A Slave Trade Mechanic.
- Police feature for Pirate Factions, claim a territory, order your pirate ships to police the Sector for whatever goods you want them to take, instead of police voice overs, you get the Pirate ones instead.
- create black markets on npc stations.
- Have procedurally generated Pirate Factions that can grow in size if left alone. Every Pirate Faction you stomp out? A new Pirate Faction is born.

[Karvat]

Hopefully that large influx of cash on top of selling the actual game and dlc will mean egosoft can hire some more people for improving the game while also adding content. People to make VFX for example, that I think might currently be done by 3d artists (lino)? Sound fx people too?

And obviously I am livid that its not the boron, more money could = more possibility of boron yes? And faster...

I also hope that the pirate expansion adds pirates outside of cartels. Currently we really dont have anything that to me would count as a traditional scoundrel. Organised crime and cartels yes, but malcolm reynolds, independant freebooter, random gang of murderers that managed to get some ships? Non-existant. The SCA being a faction in itself lends them to something other than what I think is a traditional pirate, egosoft attempted to fix this issue by locking their rep, but its a bit of an odd fix... What I mean is that I want egosoft to add the concept of factionless/independant npcs - some of these could be pirates, smuggers, bounty hunters etc - and some of them could be law abiding. Faction-less ships could give us quite a few extra options in the game.

"Significant expansion of the game universe"
And then we only get +18 sectors...
Please Egosoft, more, mooooreee

18 is more than enough. If playing X3FL has taught me anything its that there is such a thing as too many sectors and redundancy. Good sectors please, I dont care how many there are, just that they are interesting (Rebirth did this right, but then made the huge mistake of not allowing these sectors to develop outside of player hands...).

Instead is not, the map is already too small, repetitive and flat.
Ideally we would have a bunch of sectors like in X3 with the same quality of XR
Asking for less really doesen't make sense.
Even +30 with SV wasn't enough in my opinion.

It literally takes less than a couple of hours to explore the full map in X4 and find all the gates extremely easily.
That's boring.
X3 had this wonderful fact that finiding new gates was harder, and i always played with this mystery of never knowing were the borders of the universe were.
That made it way more intresting honestly.

[spankahontis]

Hopefully that large influx of cash on top of selling the actual game and dlc will mean egosoft can hire some more people for improving the game while also adding content. People to make VFX for example, that I think might currently be done by 3d artists (lino)? Sound fx people too?

And obviously I am livid that its not the boron, more money could = more possibility of boron yes? And faster...

I also hope that the pirate expansion adds pirates outside of cartels. Currently we really dont have anything that to me would count as a traditional scoundrel. Organised crime and cartels yes, but malcolm reynolds, independant freebooter, random gang of murderers that managed to get some ships? Non-existant. The SCA being a faction in itself lends them to something other than what I think is a traditional pirate, egosoft attempted to fix this issue by locking their rep, but its a bit of an odd fix... What I mean is that I want egosoft to add the concept of factionless/independant npcs - some of these could be pirates, smuggers, bounty hunters etc - and some of them could be law abiding. Faction-less ships could give us quite a few extra options in the game.

"Significant expansion of the game universe"
And then we only get +18 sectors...
Please Egosoft, more, mooooreee

18 is more than enough. If playing X3FL has taught me anything its that there is such a thing as too many sectors and redundancy. Good sectors please, I dont care how many there are, just that they are interesting (Rebirth did this right, but then made the huge mistake of not allowing these sectors to develop outside of player hands...).

Instead is not, the map is already too small, repetitive and flat.
Ideally we would have a bunch of sectors like in X3 with the same quality of XR
Asking for less really doesen't make sense.
Even +30 with SV wasn't enough in my opinion.

It literally takes less than a couple of hours to explore the full map in X4 and find all the gates extremely easily.
That's boring.
X3 had this wonderful fact that finiding new gates was harder, and i always played with this mystery of never knowing were the borders of the universe were.
That made it way more intresting honestly.

You could have 1000 New Sectors, it wont improve the game, all it'll do is put strain on middle-down PC's.
X:Rebirth didn't have quantity, which is why I personally find their systems more lore rich and interesting to explore, they compensated for the lack of systems.
If they go nuts with new systems it means sacrificing resources better spent elsewhere.
Do I want to see more Sectors? Yes, sure!
But once you've explored them? Then you just crave more Sectors and more. It's the wrong direction to go, sure that could be compensated with more unique Factions?
But I don't really think personally a bunch of fragmented pull away Commonwealth Factions is going to cut it? Sure it could bring even more randomness to the War Mechanics? But I'd rather see more new mechanics and of course.. Borons return? Then maybe they can add a new alien species?