Xenon complete joke
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Xenon complete joke
Hi guys long time player first time poster
Xenon need massive buffs they are almost 100% wiped out before you can even start producing ships. my last playthrough (pre 3.0) was great teladi par and the split all needed major help pushing the xenon back sector after sector would fall if the player didnt intervene now they do nothing. It seems like the AI doesnt care about fighting eachother anymore half the stations in true sight are ANT and half the stations in second contact flashpoint are HOP and they have made no effort to remove the other faction from their space, instead they just rush the xenon and wipe them out. Matrix 9 and 79B are the only sectors they have left.
I have included a few screenshots to show the problems its crazy that they need 20 or more S/M ships to damage 1 L freighter, and ANT taking atiyas fortune uncontested while a massive xenon fleet sits back and just watches. The screenshots were taken a few days ago before the sectors were competely wiped out.
https://imgur.com/a/3utkep6
Terrans sending asgards across the universe that literally delete any xenon ship that comes into range is another problem and im noticing most xenon battleships are without a large amount of turrets. The game feels very stale at the moment the AI barely fights among themselves anymore HOP and ANT almost seem allied, even after removing xenon they still dont really attack eachother just random S ship fights. They either need to stop suiciding small fleets of a P's and a few M/N's or need their OOS numbers buffed or somthing because its a joke that Xenon are considered a threat to the universe when they are wiped out in 4-5 days gametime.
Xenon need massive buffs they are almost 100% wiped out before you can even start producing ships. my last playthrough (pre 3.0) was great teladi par and the split all needed major help pushing the xenon back sector after sector would fall if the player didnt intervene now they do nothing. It seems like the AI doesnt care about fighting eachother anymore half the stations in true sight are ANT and half the stations in second contact flashpoint are HOP and they have made no effort to remove the other faction from their space, instead they just rush the xenon and wipe them out. Matrix 9 and 79B are the only sectors they have left.
I have included a few screenshots to show the problems its crazy that they need 20 or more S/M ships to damage 1 L freighter, and ANT taking atiyas fortune uncontested while a massive xenon fleet sits back and just watches. The screenshots were taken a few days ago before the sectors were competely wiped out.
https://imgur.com/a/3utkep6
Terrans sending asgards across the universe that literally delete any xenon ship that comes into range is another problem and im noticing most xenon battleships are without a large amount of turrets. The game feels very stale at the moment the AI barely fights among themselves anymore HOP and ANT almost seem allied, even after removing xenon they still dont really attack eachother just random S ship fights. They either need to stop suiciding small fleets of a P's and a few M/N's or need their OOS numbers buffed or somthing because its a joke that Xenon are considered a threat to the universe when they are wiped out in 4-5 days gametime.
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well, this won't increase their power but Im using a mod to have more density on astroids.
this sure has increased the numbers of xenon in my game. They are becoming fun again.
this sure has increased the numbers of xenon in my game. They are becoming fun again.
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Yeah
I had to literally put EQ docks to strategic places for re grouping for NPCs. Recently my EQ docks are empty.
Some traders coming to resupply but that is not the same.
I cheat. Not with profit to me. No building faster or free ships. 99% of my cheats to keep Xenon alive.
In the center places my only contribution to NPC advancements was to kill S miners and energy distributors.
Now if I find out the xenon on a brink on extinction then I steal/changing a weapons platorm from lets say teladi to xenon.
However if Im there in person then Xenons literally wash the floors with the enemy.
Atiya and Faulty is argon territory. In Atiya III i have seen a single S to kill an entire factory..... So there is some opposite thing too.
I had to literally put EQ docks to strategic places for re grouping for NPCs. Recently my EQ docks are empty.
Some traders coming to resupply but that is not the same.
I cheat. Not with profit to me. No building faster or free ships. 99% of my cheats to keep Xenon alive.
In the center places my only contribution to NPC advancements was to kill S miners and energy distributors.
Now if I find out the xenon on a brink on extinction then I steal/changing a weapons platorm from lets say teladi to xenon.
However if Im there in person then Xenons literally wash the floors with the enemy.
Atiya and Faulty is argon territory. In Atiya III i have seen a single S to kill an entire factory..... So there is some opposite thing too.
X to X3 is MENU SUPERIOR!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
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Since COH : the xenon has a new old well known big ennemy. The terran sends expeditions everywhere !
The balance of power may be broken
I use mods to slow the TER and make the factions fight each other so the xenon are safe ( lol )
The balance of power may be broken
I use mods to slow the TER and make the factions fight each other so the xenon are safe ( lol )
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Funny how things turned out. Back in 2 years it did not matter how many stars NPCs had they felt the urge to go in trading xenon sectors for build storage of the invaders. You literally fought like. Check traders in the area and stop order redirect god where is this came from wait which factory i have to re assign to. Ohh no it going for the supply ship to trade then a hour long undocking literally a hundred km.
Ahh a lil peacefull fight in this mess to redirect your traders from the battlefield. Even forbid sector travel global xenon + forbid the actual xenon sectors by name. Yet they come....
Now traders don't do this but still trading with NPC stations under attack... Mark the base which is under attack as hostile helping with consequences.
Commonwealth NPCs only so strong in OOS.
Ahh a lil peacefull fight in this mess to redirect your traders from the battlefield. Even forbid sector travel global xenon + forbid the actual xenon sectors by name. Yet they come....
Now traders don't do this but still trading with NPC stations under attack... Mark the base which is under attack as hostile helping with consequences.
Commonwealth NPCs only so strong in OOS.
X to X3 is MENU SUPERIOR!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
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which mod allows you to do this? i just installed a mod to boost their numbers but they are already dead, can it respawn xenon shipyards? would rather not have to restart my game to bring them back really sad having explored everything and built a shipyards just to have them already wiped out.Virtualaughing wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 12:29I cheat. Not with profit to me. No building faster or free ships. 99% of my cheats to keep Xenon alive.
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Try Xenon Awakening mod:steve1862 wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 17:46which mod allows you to do this? i just installed a mod to boost their numbers but they are already dead, can it respawn xenon shipyards? would rather not have to restart my game to bring them back really sad having explored everything and built a shipyards just to have them already wiped out.Virtualaughing wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 12:29I cheat. Not with profit to me. No building faster or free ships. 99% of my cheats to keep Xenon alive.
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/646
Be ready
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All that complains because people still expect that Xenon are their greatest threat.
And for some reasons they can't realize that with CoH we've got new enemy - terrans.
So that's not Xenon you should aim...
And for some reasons they can't realize that with CoH we've got new enemy - terrans.
So that's not Xenon you should aim...
X4 is not a destination. It's a journey. Unfortunately in a wrong direction.
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Cheat menu ehtschu123_cheatsteve1862 wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 17:46which mod allows you to do this? i just installed a mod to boost their numbers but they are already dead, can it respawn xenon shipyards? would rather not have to restart my game to bring them back really sad having explored everything and built a shipyards just to have them already wiped out.Virtualaughing wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 12:29I cheat. Not with profit to me. No building faster or free ships. 99% of my cheats to keep Xenon alive.
Block the gates using add ship/type. Stick to the race specific ships. Not mandatory. If you making it at player then they will turn on you. Use the waypoint as spawning location
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Select a defense platform in the system where you want Xenon to do their job. Cheat/modify SHIP, not factory! Factory won't give you the change faction. So you can make argon-xenon defense platform. When they get busy you make sure the cheated platform is gone. Asgard main weapon. If you change back faction then that can lead to bloodshed. If you successfully turned that system to a xenon system and the cheated def plat destroyed they will spawn a building site.
Make a S for your self. Give the advanced automine command and don't give more than one jumprange. If you give 1 jump you make sure that is also a xenon sector. Make 4 and make few to trade energy cells.
Eventually they will end up producing wharf and shipyards. You can make L ships too to mine but they wont sell to factory. Only to build storage. If you give 2 or more neighboring sectors they will make more shipyard and wharf. Around 8 each.
S trick. Check back time to time or spend a half day and a waypoint on the S ship. You can fill their cargo so they won't mine or search for powerplants.
Invasion. Spawn some Xenon ships anywhere. Then you can jump/ move selected object to position of a waypoint. (guidance excuse me:D) They will go back to the location they were spawned by you.
Have Fun!
X to X3 is MENU SUPERIOR!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
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Terrans are like flies in the room. Buzzing all around nobody cares. My Gestu is Antigone Terran Zyarth... I'm afraid that if the Zyarth were hostile to Terrans, Earth would be SPLIT already.
X to X3 is MENU SUPERIOR!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
I think Egosoft has already worked out our doom, because Xenon AI will reach the stars!
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Guess every game is different. In mine the Split (all of them) have a terrible economy. Before I built a shipyard, if I wanted a single Split ship, even a small one, I'd have to wait for them to get supplies to build it.Virtualaughing wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 18:30Terrans are like flies in the room. Buzzing all around nobody cares. My Gestu is Antigone Terran Zyarth... I'm afraid that if the Zyarth were hostile to Terrans, Earth would be SPLIT already.
Just as a test I was able to queue up 20 high preset Osakas and the Terrans would have been able to build them. Trying to order a single Rattlesnake from either Split shipyard .... and they didn't have the parts.
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Seeing a bit of a Xenon resurgence in my game. Went up to Matrix 598 for a turret disarm job on a Xenon SPP. Normally would not have been an issue, done the same thing many times in the Tharka's region. However this time think I've found where a lot of my Xenon were hiding:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7z3rl0o4pa8w ... 1.jpg?dl=0
Managed to get maybe 8 of the turrets before a K sneaked up behind me. First I knew of it was my shields dropping precipitously. It was quite a shock - turned round & it was right there, within spitting distance. Damn thing looked like it was grinning at me! Incredibly glad I was flying a Terran destroyer with 338k shields rather than the Rattler (64k shields) I had in my last game. Currently on the run, frantically chucking laser towers out the back to provide a distraction while my engines get warmed up, wondering how the hell I'm going to get back to that station to finish the job - there's an exceptional weapon mod up for grabs if I can do it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7z3rl0o4pa8w ... 1.jpg?dl=0
Managed to get maybe 8 of the turrets before a K sneaked up behind me. First I knew of it was my shields dropping precipitously. It was quite a shock - turned round & it was right there, within spitting distance. Damn thing looked like it was grinning at me! Incredibly glad I was flying a Terran destroyer with 338k shields rather than the Rattler (64k shields) I had in my last game. Currently on the run, frantically chucking laser towers out the back to provide a distraction while my engines get warmed up, wondering how the hell I'm going to get back to that station to finish the job - there's an exceptional weapon mod up for grabs if I can do it.
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Xenon seem about the same in my game. They have devastated various areas in Teladi and Split space.
The Split seem to suffer the worst, what with FAF taking every resource to build Rattlesnakes.
Currently the FAF are the biggest threat to my very slowly growing empire. There seems to be a Universe wide shortage of silicon at the moment.
So I have to go and take resource rich areas, sorry Xenon but you all have to be eliminated. Then I will do HOP.
The Split seem to suffer the worst, what with FAF taking every resource to build Rattlesnakes.
Currently the FAF are the biggest threat to my very slowly growing empire. There seems to be a Universe wide shortage of silicon at the moment.
So I have to go and take resource rich areas, sorry Xenon but you all have to be eliminated. Then I will do HOP.
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Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal.
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I find that people generally want an enemy that everyone hates so that there isn't any consequences when fighting them. That's Xenon.
But there are 10 factions that you can go to war with.
But there are 10 factions that you can go to war with.
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All the Xenon have retreated to my home for displaced xenon.
For years they have been suppressed, torched and killed.
Rescuing the last xenon is essential for the balance of the universe.
We here at the xenon orphanage station rescue centre are please to say a new brewed of Baby Xenon are kicking the shit out of each other. Just waiting to be all grown up and kick shit out of you lot.
We have been feeding them fresh humans daily, this being a delicacy they particularly enjoy.
For years they have been suppressed, torched and killed.
Rescuing the last xenon is essential for the balance of the universe.
We here at the xenon orphanage station rescue centre are please to say a new brewed of Baby Xenon are kicking the shit out of each other. Just waiting to be all grown up and kick shit out of you lot.
We have been feeding them fresh humans daily, this being a delicacy they particularly enjoy.
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And now the TER too.
Bonus feature: killing TER saves XEN. Win-win.
Alas, the TER seem to have the same infection as the XEN: they don't scare me.
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That's a good point. I like to combine shots with profits, for example have turned several xenon stations into millions credits due to argon/terran missions, also have sold couple of captured Asgard, that's also good credits.
But are there any profits in war? Well, i know that i can find missions related to some wars, at least with some rewards, haven't tried yet, so don't know how good that paid.
Also seems like no one have wars with terrans.
What profit to declare war against terrans?.. Well, except satisfaction that xenons are saved.
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The problem with warring Terrans, is that in general their systems aren't worth taking.
Now PIO? That might be worth taking over.
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ok, got it, sectors with resources.
Why PIO? they do not kill Xenons.
X4 is not a destination. It's a journey. Unfortunately in a wrong direction.
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Because their sectors have good resources, and proximity to trade with Ter and Antigone.
I usually wipe out the Xenon eventually and then systematically go through and eliminate all non humans. Home team and what not.
In my current Playthrough, I have to let Teladi live slightly longer because I like the Cormorant as an M trader. Once the Map is Human only, I've won and it's time to start over.