Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by theborg921 » Fri, 8. Mar 19, 13:55

CBJ wrote:
Fri, 8. Mar 19, 11:17
CBJ, just a few posts back, wrote:
Fri, 1. Mar 19, 12:02
We're not going to give dates for future updates, as they depend on a number of factors including progress on the updates that come before them.
Ah CBJ, I expected somethinl like soon after 2.40 relese :lol: Kep the good work and don not forget to insert some toples split females in the game :)

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by kyrah » Fri, 8. Mar 19, 16:27

I think there were no changes to crew training in 2.0 as postet on first page. Will they come in 2.5? Still changes planed?

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by CBJ » Fri, 8. Mar 19, 19:33

There were some changes to crew training in 2.00. There were some adjustments to the balancing of crew skill progression, and we also added display of partial skill stars to one third of a star accuracy, so that you could see that progression more clearly. There may well be more crew training changes in future updates, but I'm afraid I don't have details of if and when these will be released.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by mr.WHO » Fri, 8. Mar 19, 21:16

CBJ wrote:
Fri, 8. Mar 19, 19:33
There were some changes to crew training in 2.00. There were some adjustments to the balancing of crew skill progression, and we also added display of partial skill stars to one third of a star accuracy, so that you could see that progression more clearly. There may well be more crew training changes in future updates, but I'm afraid I don't have details of if and when these will be released.
I' aprecieate if you would push "mass crew/marines transfer" as high priority - the need to move each and every single NPC crew one by one is nightmare ever since X-Rebirth. I was stunned to see this haven't been adressed in X4 and even made worse (in XR at least marines were moving in bulk with marine officer).

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by Morleond » Sat, 9. Mar 19, 07:21

Hey Egosoft I think I can speak for most of us when I say that so far you have done a great job on the game and we love the game.
I know I speak for all of us when I say that transferring crew and Marines is impossibly tedious. Can we expect a change to the method of transferring crew in a upcoming update? Can it please be in the next one? Simple sliders like on the boarding screen being added to the transfer wares window would be perfect.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by RainerPrem » Mon, 11. Mar 19, 12:19

Morleond wrote:
Sat, 9. Mar 19, 07:21
Hey Egosoft I think I can speak for most of us when I say that so far you have done a great job on the game and we love the game.
I know I speak for all of us when I say that transferring crew and Marines is impossibly tedious. Can we expect a change to the method of transferring crew in a upcoming update? Can it please be in the next one? Simple sliders like on the boarding screen being added to the transfer wares window would be perfect.
Using Sliders would IMHO be far from perfect for this task. I would like to select two objects (ship and ship or ship and station), and see their crews in two columns side by side. Especially to see all five skills of each crewmember. Then I want to select all crew members to move and a single button "move now".

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by Morleond » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 03:24

In any case the method of going map>ship>information>crew>full crew list>type of crew>rank of crew> crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. And then having to repeat
crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. For every damn marine or crew you want to transfer is the worst design that ever existed and needs to be changed yesterday.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by ei8htx » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 08:24

Morleond wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 03:24
In any case the method of going map>ship>information>crew>full crew list>type of crew>rank of crew> crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. And then having to repeat
crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. For every damn marine or crew you want to transfer is the worst design that ever existed and needs to be changed yesterday.
Ugh that hurt to read. Because it's true.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by radcapricorn » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 21:27

Morleond wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 03:24
In any case the method of going map>ship>information>crew>full crew list>type of crew>rank of crew> crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. And then having to repeat
crew member > coms> work somewhere else> right click ship> click select ship> service or Marines> confirm. For every damn marine or crew you want to transfer is the worst design that ever existed and needs to be changed yesterday.
+1 and a full quote just because it's that frustrating.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by shealladh » Wed, 13. Mar 19, 11:09

RainerPrem wrote:
Mon, 11. Mar 19, 12:19
Morleond wrote:
Sat, 9. Mar 19, 07:21
Hey Egosoft I think I can speak for most of us when I say that so far you have done a great job on the game and we love the game.
I know I speak for all of us when I say that transferring crew and Marines is impossibly tedious. Can we expect a change to the method of transferring crew in a upcoming update? Can it please be in the next one? Simple sliders like on the boarding screen being added to the transfer wares window would be perfect.
Using Sliders would IMHO be far from perfect for this task. I would like to select two objects (ship and ship or ship and station), and see their crews in two columns side by side. Especially to see all five skills of each crewmember. Then I want to select all crew members to move and a single button "move now".
Suggested just that quite a while ago.
I'd like to add (again) moving the Promote Captain, should be second in the drop menu so you don't accidently override a skilled Captain. ie. You're half way through doing transfers, something happens, scan for illegal goods/fight, etc. and it decides to Promote anyway :evil:

This should be as easy as buying ship upgrades with double windows for each list, then just selecting the crew member(s) hit a button in the middle to transfer to right window. You should also be able to use this after choosing which ship from your fleet, now if you're doing this while not in control of each ship, then the AI should take each ship to a dock and do the transfer for you.

Maybe this could be an addition to the supply ships, where each of those pickup and take those crew members to the assigned ship for deployment.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by photomankc » Thu, 14. Mar 19, 20:40

RainerPrem wrote:
Mon, 11. Mar 19, 12:19
Morleond wrote:
Sat, 9. Mar 19, 07:21
Hey Egosoft I think I can speak for most of us when I say that so far you have done a great job on the game and we love the game.
I know I speak for all of us when I say that transferring crew and Marines is impossibly tedious. Can we expect a change to the method of transferring crew in a upcoming update? Can it please be in the next one? Simple sliders like on the boarding screen being added to the transfer wares window would be perfect.
Using Sliders would IMHO be far from perfect for this task. I would like to select two objects (ship and ship or ship and station), and see their crews in two columns side by side. Especially to see all five skills of each crewmember. Then I want to select all crew members to move and a single button "move now".

Sweet Jumping Jesus, yes. It is infuriating to move a large number of personnel! :evil:


ETA: And I also concur that this game is pretty amazing outside a few of these issues so I don't want to bash. I'm hooked, I like it a lot.

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by Morleond » Mon, 18. Mar 19, 23:23

Hey CBJ is there any materials we can see that tell us more about resupply ships? Or could you give us a good idea of their function?

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Re: Next steps in the evolution of X4: Foundations

Post by mr.WHO » Tue, 19. Mar 19, 19:15

If we're about more material, how about some screenshots from Split DLC? Or is it too soon?

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