X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

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X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Kane Hart » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:27

Just to repeat this not a Egosoft issue but OBS / Vulkan API issue.

At this time I wanted to make a thread since people will be googling this a lot.

X4: Foundations does not sadly seem to work via Game Mode or Window Mode. This seems to be a Limitation from the Vulkan API and not actually X4: Foundations though I'm surprised Window Mode can't be captured but that seems to be how it is.

Once the game Launches tomorrow I will attempt to find some workarounds. From my understand Dxtory will work but it's messy on it's own. OBS for me is amazing as I encode live when I record.

If you want to record with OBS you need to use Display Capture at this time.

I will update this thread as time goes on.

Developer Response from OBS:
https://i.imgur.com/nnPcuda.png
"Vulcan games can be counted with one hand and so there was no priority to implement game capture for it (beside that it's difficult to do)"

Developers suggest to comment here and vote if you like Vulkan api as an idea.
https://ideas.obsproject.com/posts/59/a ... me-capture
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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Alee Enn » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:38

Time for a stupid question ... how are those who are already streaming it, streaming it?
It's not unknown for a game to block being streamed, but for X4, it must be possible given that people are already doing it.
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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Kane Hart » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:43

Alee Enn wrote:
Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:38
Time for a stupid question ... how are those who are already streaming it, streaming it?
It's not unknown for a game to block being streamed, but for X4, it must be possible given that people are already doing it.
Developers are giving out special keys that let them play the game early. Only a hand picked select few. Even me as a Youtuber would not be accepted due to low numbers and popularity. They seem to be picking the best of the best and that makes sense marketing wise.

Their also using Desktop Capture and Capture Cards.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by CBJ » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:45

As the link in the original post says, the problem is a technical one between OBS and Vulkan. It's not something we have any control over.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Alee Enn » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:59

Alee Enn wrote:
Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:38
Time for a stupid question ... how are those who are already streaming it, streaming it?
It's not unknown for a game to block being streamed, but for X4, it must be possible given that people are already doing it.
Kane Hart wrote:
Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:43
Developers are giving out special keys that let them play the game early. Only a hand picked select few. Even me as a Youtuber would not be accepted due to low numbers and popularity. They seem to be picking the best of the best and that makes sense marketing wise.

Their also using Desktop Capture and Capture Cards.
Ummm .... the stupid question wasn't asking that ... but I guess, there's no such thing as stupid questions ...
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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by fcth » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 23:00

Alee Enn wrote:
Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:38
Time for a stupid question ... how are those who are already streaming it, streaming it?
It's not unknown for a game to block being streamed, but for X4, it must be possible given that people are already doing it.
The ObsidianAnt stream yesterday was running in a window and using some sort of desktop streaming. It sounded like he had worked out something different for his stream this morning, but didn't elaborate on what exactly it was, he just said it was much smoother.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Perahoky » Thu, 29. Nov 18, 23:18

"Hope is the last force i have"
"This is how liberty dies, with thounderous applause"
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My X4 priorities:
Gui Improvements, Move tradefilter to lower right corner, more colors
Good Sounds, music, Graphics and effects of XR
Performance improvements
Thanks @EGOSOFT, good X4 progress!


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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by TrueSanity » Fri, 30. Nov 18, 22:42

I just use monitor capture and use a hotkey to toggle streaming when I get the game running.
Alee Enn wrote:
Thu, 29. Nov 18, 22:38
Time for a stupid question ... how are those who are already streaming it, streaming it?
It's not unknown for a game to block being streamed, but for X4, it must be possible given that people are already doing it.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Sutasu » Sun, 2. Dec 18, 14:34

Exactly, only Windowed mode and display capture works. Tested it all, and thats the only usable solution.
I've made a quich tutorial how to do it on YT if you need visual help, I hope it will help.
https://youtu.be/C_tIpvk5LmY

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Babberdeggl » Sun, 9. Dec 18, 02:26

The problem i have with obs. Even though capturing in borderless and fullscreen do work when using display capture, but this stuttering showed in Sutasu's Video is not bearable for me. Well and i can't be playing in window mode :lol: I wonder how people manage to stream X4 completly without stuttering.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by KextV8 » Sun, 9. Dec 18, 04:23

A capture card feeding a second computer should work. Mind, I haven't tested that. I dont see why it wouldnt though.

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Shadowcub » Sun, 9. Dec 18, 05:27

I've been using GeForce Experience. It's been streaming it just fine. :)

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Kane Hart » Sun, 9. Dec 18, 07:29

Shadowcub wrote:
Sun, 9. Dec 18, 05:27
I've been using GeForce Experience. It's been streaming it just fine. :)
Does GeForce Experience not capture the entire display? OBS does that too

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Re: X4: Foundations with OBS Window Mode / Game Mode does not work.

Post by Babberdeggl » Sun, 9. Dec 18, 09:43

Geforce Experience captures just the game and not bad either, but i miss a couple of settings. Mic filter for example.

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