Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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thomasbkdk wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 11:54 I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread, i could be wrong.

Also have in mind that there is a weapon mod that can be installed that increases yields from mining by >425%
It could be worth wile investing in.
It's not quite that good. Don't expect a ship with a Digger mod installed to suddenly be collecting minerals 4x faster than it was previously. As far as I can tell the mod increases the damage mining beams do to rocks, effectively reducing the amount of time it takes to split the rock into suitable sized chunks for collection. Yield of those chunks however is unchanged. Tested this in my last game with a Tuatara with a pair of mining drills, 1 modded, the other not. Shot the same rock with both, reloading the game for the second shot. Overall yield was broadly comparable, though the modded beam did split the rock noticeably quicker.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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dholmstr wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 16:09
thomasbkdk wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 11:54 I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread, i could be wrong.

Also have in mind that there is a weapon mod that can be installed that increases yields from mining by >425%
It could be worth wile investing in.
It prolly is, and that's another reason why I think a L miningturret is better. I just need to upgrade 1 turret and not several. As I have problems getting enough modmaterial (high evergy... somethign something...) and you need 3 for one weapong upgrade :(
What I do to collect components is I park a scout with default orders "dock and wait" at a station somewhat close to a gate bordering a xenon sector (or any 2 warning factions). Place a satellite near the gate on both border sectors. Periodically I'll check it and have the scout "collect drops" and "deposit inventory". Right now I've got over 200 high energy catalyst.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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SwizzleStick86 wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 22:37
dholmstr wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 16:09
thomasbkdk wrote: Wed, 14. Apr 21, 11:54 I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread, i could be wrong.

Also have in mind that there is a weapon mod that can be installed that increases yields from mining by >425%
It could be worth wile investing in.
It prolly is, and that's another reason why I think a L miningturret is better. I just need to upgrade 1 turret and not several. As I have problems getting enough modmaterial (high evergy... somethign something...) and you need 3 for one weapong upgrade :(
What I do to collect components is I park a scout with default orders "dock and wait" at a station somewhat close to a gate bordering a xenon sector (or any 2 warning factions). Place a satellite near the gate on both border sectors. Periodically I'll check it and have the scout "collect drops" and "deposit inventory". Right now I've got over 200 high energy catalyst.
I've wasted 500+ trying to get good rolls.... :(
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

Post by SwizzleStick86 »

Lol me too, but with that l-mining turret upgrade, it's just a basic component, and the minimum bonus you can get is +425%, so I do those once and leave it.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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SwizzleStick86 wrote: Fri, 16. Apr 21, 20:41 Lol me too, but with that l-mining turret upgrade, it's just a basic component, and the minimum bonus you can get is +425%, so I do those once and leave it.
Well yes, the mining bonus I just let it be whatever I get the first time. It's about when I do weapons for ships.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

Post by SwizzleStick86 »

Oh ok, yeah I'm the same way for weapons/shields etc..I usually end up trying it 4 times, if I don't get it then I reload...thankfully a m.2 nvme ssd makes load times not as bad.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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arshiba wrote: Wed, 31. Mar 21, 17:07
My personal preference based on game experience. Main reason - pirate harassments. Combat engines have 0 delay to go to travel mode, so a miner or trader has a better chance to escape.

I also use combat engines for my minings ships but for an other reason. I followed my own mining ships to observe what they did, and I also make a try beeing a simple passanger in the mining ships cockpit.

Most often a mining ship select an astreoide belt and inside a little area it move from an asteroid to an other. Travel mod is rarely used, except for initial travel from station to working area (and come back). So I had the feeling having better speed and acceleration on short distance was the most important factor. Combat engine imposed it as the adequate answer for the situation.

It is nothing as '' scientific" and document than Arshiba work ;-) , just a feeling.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

Post by LandogarX4 »

Great thread, I wish I had come across it earlier. Turns out the Teladi Crane I have always used is not a good choice due to its abysmal mining speed.

Argon Magnetar does indeed seem like the best option for an L miner. But the Paranid Chthonios might come close: it has 18% faster mining, 63% faster travel speed, and only 30% less cargo hold.

And with 2 L turrets, same cargo hold and even faster speed than the Chthonios, the new Donia L miner could also be a strong contender for best L miner.
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Re: Mining M-Turret vs. L-Turret vs. M drill

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LandogarX4 wrote: Wed, 22. Mar 23, 20:36 Great thread, I wish I had come across it earlier. Turns out the Teladi Crane I have always used is not a good choice due to its abysmal mining speed.

Argon Magnetar does indeed seem like the best option for an L miner. But the Paranid Chthonios might come close: it has 18% faster mining, 63% faster travel speed, and only 30% less cargo hold.

And with 2 L turrets, same cargo hold and even faster speed than the Chthonios, the new Donia L miner could also be a strong contender for best L miner.
According to https://www.qsna.eu/x4/efficiency , Chthonios's less cargo but increased speed would yield more m3 per hour when it comes to hauling. And since it has 18% faster mining, it might just be the best mining ship.

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