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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Apr 17, 11:01    Post subject: Return to the Commonwealth Reply with quote Print

Hello, been a while since I last visited here.
I've been having trouble with my computer (no VGA signal) and so no X for me...
Ultimately it all became too much and there really isn't anything else I can access that 'does it' for me. Trading and complex building were always my favourites.
To this end I ultimately loaded X3R onto my mum's machine, wasn't sure it would take, it isn't exactly built for gaming, but it runs and I'm back in the Buster getting my arse handed to me by pirates... (I'd forgotten how dangerous they were...)
Joy... Very Happy
My dogfighting is rusty as heck too...


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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Apr 17, 11:45    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Just remember those Unknown Objects are hammerhead missiles!


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PostPosted: Mon, 3. Apr 17, 12:37    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

And worth Cr 80,000...
Picked one up early on and I needed the creds more than the bang.


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PostPosted: Sun, 9. Apr 17, 01:41    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

In my head the X3 games have become mangled into a non-existent whole, and I'm trying to find sectors or buy ships that don't exist yet...
The BBS is taking a while to get used to again, though knowledge of the freebie ships certainly speeds up the frustrating scrounging section at the start (where my primary income was from salvaging dropped missiles) I even picked up a Pandora crate giving me an Iguana Vanguard that can do 283m/s... I still have to work on my Paranid rep to get a docking computer, my manual docking in that thing makes autopillock look like an expert!
It does however open up a whole new world of income, faster than any buster and able to carry 166 units of Space Fuel plus e-cells for the jump drive from Herron's Nebula to wherever the party is... Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 9. Apr 17, 17:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

1 day and 12 hrs in I have Cr 2,700,000... Definitely wasn't that quick off the mark first time round...
Picked up another Pandora crate, the Iggy Vanguard now hits 383m/s and docking is downright crazy. Surprised
Still need to work on my race rep...


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PostPosted: Sun, 9. Apr 17, 18:14    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Yeah it is much harder in X3:R. Gaining rep was a real pain.

Quick tip though. If you are are below zero rep with a race and you donate to them on the BBS, you will not gain any rep. Figured that one out the hard way. Lost something like 50 mil doing that and couldn't figure it out until I asked here.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13. Apr 17, 00:02    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Found a docking computer on one of the freebie ships... Think I just lost a reason to be friendly with the three-eyed zealots... Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu, 13. Apr 17, 20:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

And I've finished the main plot. never bought a ship, never built a factory...
Laughing
Got dumped in front of the police so instantly lost my new rep and override software...
I suppose it's time to see if I remember where Bala Gi runs into you...

edit; Bala Gi started just after I passed the Cr 5,000,000 mark.

edit 2; Apprently the forum isn't letting me post another reply ATM thus this edit.
It looks like my first ship purchase could be an M6 to tow the yacht out...
There is the Nemesis wreckage in there but I was never keen on that ship's handling.
My goto tug-boat in previous games was a Dragon but I don't have enough Split rep to get it yet.
I think I used an Elephant first time round...


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PostPosted: Fri, 14. Apr 17, 22:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Definitely leaning towads the TL I'll have more use for tbat than the M6.
I'm patrolling tohe sectors from Getsu Fune to Thynn's Abyss while I grind for rep & credit.
Don't tell -john- but I just capped an L...


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PostPosted: Sun, 16. Apr 17, 16:53    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I suppose it's time I got round to buying a TS.
The shortlist is;
Caiman Hauler, Family Rhy, Cr 873,658 100m/s 5000-7000 XL
Caiman Tanker XL, Cho's Defeat, Cr 959,358 81m/s 4750-6650 XL
Caiman Super Freighter, Family Tkr, Cr 1,096,478 96m/s 4625-6475XL


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PostPosted: Sun, 16. Apr 17, 18:01    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

That should be a no-brainer, since one of them is cheaper (accepts more tunings though, which might change the total price), faster and larger than the others.


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PostPosted: Sun, 16. Apr 17, 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Cargo compression would be the outstanding factor and so I need to determine the value of a cargo unit.
Hauler = Cr 175 per unit cargo
Tanker = Cr 202 per unit cargo
Super Freighter = Cr 237 per unit cargo

Next stage is to figure out how much compression that actually gives me.
Time for a save and testing...


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PostPosted: Sun, 16. Apr 17, 19:35    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Each Cargo Bay Extension gives your ship one unit of extra cargo. As for the prices, see this explanation.


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PostPosted: Sun, 16. Apr 17, 21:50    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Hauler; 5660XL Cr 990,148
Tanker; 5475XL Cr 1,105,808
S Freighter; 5460XL Cr 1,293,955

So yes at this point it is a bit of a no brainer...

I could account for the cost of the engine tuning (Cr 10,652) but that only gives us another 5 or 10 units of cargo space so not really worth it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 17. Apr 17, 17:21    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

The cost of tunings is essentially an arithmetic series (except that rounding can and will mess up the math).

First cargo tuning is 14cr. The last (actually one past the last) is 1000cr.

Arithmetic series would be: N*(14cr + 1000cr)/2
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Caiman   N      Cost
Hauler 2000 1,014,000
Tanker 1900   963,300
SF     1850   937,950

As said, ingame prices should contain some rounding, but the base hull price differences are clearly larger than the variation on the (full) tuning.


Caiman Hauler was (X3R) my main workhorse and I was not very price-concious. Speed is life. Speed is profits. Being able to haul more than the NPC can typically offer is no real advantage.


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