H-1B Visas: Tech Companies Fight Back

[Memnoch]

I hadn't heard of this until a few months back and found this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qty1xqvQBrA&t

The way Michio Kaku puts it, it's not just about cost. He suggests the US could collapse if foreign workers were not allowed in under this program.

[Morkonan]

...The way Michio Kaku puts it, it's not just about cost. He suggests the US could collapse if foreign workers were not allowed in under this program.

Kaku has talked about this before, years ago. In many ways, he's right. But, it's not exactly so dire in terms of economic prosperity. At least, not "yet." We have yet to slide into the steady, or sometimes dramatic, decline of "decadence."

The economic environment in the US is still very fertile. There are a great many opportunities and lots of capital available to pursue them. Exploitation of these economic opportunities hasn't stagnated nor is it in danger.... yet.

The U.S. is a magnet for intelligent people looking to better themselves and to take advantage of a prosperous environment. People seeking advanced degrees would not be coming to the U.S. if it could not supply them with a quality education and experience that is valued around the World.

Still, our public education system in the lower levels of education, those ranks which are culled, usually from native populations, for the "best and brightest" has many shortcomings in terms of actual performance in producing those sorts of people. Or, more realistically put - Enabling such minds to thrive and to succeed in pursuing careers in STEM fields, including the sorts of scientific innovation that Kaku is talking about.

If once combines this with the traditional drop in birth-rates that economically and technologically advanced civilizations experience, and which all such nations are experiencing today, in order to continue to exploit and expand the economic environment in terms of scientific and technological innovation, we certain must attract the most promising minds that the World has to offer.

It's not that Americans are stupid and it's not that our lower education system's intent is terrible. It's that it has advanced little beyond its original purpose.

No nation, as far as I know, graduates Phds or routinely grows technical and scientific innovators from its' lower-level education systems. Instead, the historical way that is done is pretty simple - Public education ensures a steady stream of semi-skilled labor capable of routine, sometimes slightly demanding, work, while higher-level education, usually enjoyed by more economically prosperous classes, who have the means and the time to pursue such education, provides the large leaps of economic (and in other areas) advancement.

But, that needs to change, somewhat, in order to keep up with today's modern world and the high demand for very skilled STEM labor. Currently, our public education system is NOT meeting that sort of goal.

[Mightysword]

Unpopular opinion: the reason why the US K12 education is in its state because it's too liberal (for the nicpickers out there, the word liberal here is used per American context and have nothing to do with politic). They put too much emphasis on "freedom" instead of "responsibility", it put too much on "ideal" while ignore "practicality", we prefer to find excuse of why things didn't go well rather than setting the bar for standard. In other countries, and even in the US in the old day as I lead to believe, schools is supposed to be a training place to prepare the student to face the reality of life, but more and more I feel our schooling system want to be a cocoon of false paradise - not even the K12, this is creeping into higher education as well.

[BigBANGtheory]

I hadn't heard of this until a few months back and found this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qty1xqvQBrA&t

The way Michio Kaku puts it, it's not just about cost. He suggests the US could collapse if foreign workers were not allowed in under this program.

Then they could just improve their workers rights or employ them under a more favourable contract.... Dude its ALL about cost in services industries I accept there are a few cases where specialist skills need to be bought in but that is a smoke screen behind which the much larger issue lies.

What they could say is any organisation that hasn't fired, dismissed staff (in the relevent area) for the past 10yrs may hire in new skills from abroad.