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PostPosted: Sat, 24. Feb 18, 19:04    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Crashed shortly after taking on a patrol mission in terran space



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Crash event occurred on Sat Feb 24 11:58:26 2018
G:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\x3 terran conflict\x3ap.exe
The exception "Unknown exception" (0xc0000095) was caused at address 0023:0043c1ae

Process owned by user: Oleksandr

Story call stack dump:
[000000]->[037cc8]#-613834(2031)[702].StartThisScriptID(587, {"Lib.Cmd.LeadShipWingMonitor",50,"Lib Cmd: Monitors status changes to effect wing",58,0,{...},{...},0,{...},0}, {0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}, 10)
[037e84]->[038afa]#-613834(2031)[702].__runScript({120888793,10,0,3,{...},{...},0,587,{...},0,0,0,0}, {"Lib.Cmd.LeadShipWingMonitor",50,"Lib Cmd: Monitors status changes to effect wing",58,0,{...},{...},0,{...},0}, 65542, -613834, {0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}, 0)

Stack dump:
d09193f4 00000000 04010000 fcfb1900 4abf4845 6672b7ba 4daf4500 b0310000  .... .... .... .... J.HE fr.. M.E. .1..
bf251300 d5150000 d4000000 88fa1900 acfa1900 8f420000 606fb40e e05021bc  .%.. .... .... .... .... .B.. `o.. .P!.
01000000 92ee4400 b5dd0100 d5150000 def0f4ff d8f271ce 47610000 04010000  .... ..D. .... .... .... ..q. Ga.. ....
ba090000 00000000 d5db0000 a4cd0000 dd1ffdff 00000000 00000000 00000000  .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
07000000 00000000 ea70ffff 23000000 46d40000 a6da5200 38fb1900 3ba44b00  .... .... .p.. #... F... ..R. 8... ;.K.
d16d0000 00000000 00000000 00000000 04010000 d2454517 4db30000 a8f8ffff  .m.. .... .... .... .... .EE. M... ....
d8430000 1f500100 29050000 2e030000 84140000 c04394f4 69ca0000 28e5ffff  .C.. .P.. )... .... .... .C.. i... (...
8be7ffff 00000000 30fd9209 07000000 42064a00 ea070000 31124400 c6210500  .... .... 0... .... B.J. .... 1.D. .!..
d8bc399d 85f84400 9e2e0000 18feffff a3110000 2d495100 07000000 48bf399d  ..9. ..D. .... .... .... -IQ. .... H.9.
a3110000 2d495100 e05021bc 18ba5b7c ffffffed 80000000 e000e4ff 50ac1faa  .... -IQ. .P!. ..[| .... .... .... P...
18ba5b7c 4acb4500 606fb40e e05021bc 01000000 01000000 9cfe0000 00000000  ..[| J.E. `o.. .P!. .... .... .... ....
5fe5ffff 00000000 00000000 00000100 00000000 00000000 a11a0000 00000000  _... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
9cfe0000 00000000 1ae1ffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 d4fb1900 00000000  .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
d0fb1900 e0fb1900 00000000 dcfb1900 ecfb1900 00000000 e8fb1900 f8fb1900  .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
00000000 01000000 04b74300 e05021bc 6c6fb40e 8818e808 00000000 714a4000  .... .... ..C. .P!. lo.. .... .... qJ@.
65000000 01000000 0cfe1900 b6030000 e0020000 2a311752 feffffff fcfd1900  e... .... .... .... .... *1.R .... ....
d0fbfc74 2a311752 feffffff 58fc1900 42ebfa74 e0020000 ffffffff 8ce9f676  ...t *1.R .... X... B..t .... .... ...v
d0c0fa74 e0020000 00000000 84fc1900 cc3ddb53 e0020000 40028902 dd40dc53  ...t .... .... .... .=.S .... @... .@.S
eb510000 40028902 40028902 acfc1900 e83edc53 e8fc1900 24000000 c04ac474  .Q.. @... @... .... .>.S .... $... .J.t
00000100 e0fc1900 c628db53 b4fc1900 2818e253 b019e253 b6030000 00000000  .... .... .(.S .... (..S ...S .... ....
00000000 b07a4703 00402b00 00011001 50fd1900 00000000 2818e253 b019e253  .... .zG. .@+. .... P... .... (..S ...S
b6030000 00fd1900 f227db53 b019e253 65000000 01000000 b6030000 b07a4703  .... .... .'.S ...S e... .... .... .zG.
0000a00f 00402b00 1cfd1900 e631db53 50fd1900 00000000 00000000 00000000  .... .@+. .... .1.S P... .... .... ....
00000000 0cfe1900 2f494d00 50fd1900 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  .... .... /IM. P... .... .... .... ....
65000000 01000000 0cfe1900 b6030000 a0ee7a1e 20f45400 2a085800 fe140000  e... .... .... .... ..z.  .T. *.X. ....
bc118913 01000000 fcfd1900 2e315300 ffffffff 7b464000 c064c474 7cfe1900  .... .... .... .1S. .... {F@. .d.t |...
01000000 00000000 00000000 606fb40e 01000000 00000000 00000000 01000000  .... .... .... `o.. .... .... .... ....
ffffffff 00000000 20000000 008a9209 63745820 313200ff ffffffff 00000000  .... ....  ... .... ctX  12.. .... ....
0f000000 0060dbeb 00000100 00969209 00ee5400 df000000 00000000 00000000  .... .`.. .... .... ..T. .... .... ....
0f000000 24fe1900 008c9209 20660177 1770f276 8fced1f7 00000000 0f000000  .... $... ....  f.w .p.v .... .... ....
01000000 4cfe1900 94315300 ffffffff d0071c01 58fe1900 a1354000 02000000  .... L... .1S. .... .... X... .5@. ....
c064c474 7cfe1900 01000000 1770f276 9f9ff676 00000000 50fe1900 d0665200  .d.t |... .... .p.v ...v .... P... .fR.
80ac6000 00020000 00000000 4c000000 18fe1900 70ff1900 a8315300 00000000  ..`. .... .... L... .... p... .1S. ....
80ff1900 77584d00 02000000 f0230000 02000000 02000000 02000000 c85d5600  .... wXM. .... .#.. .... .... .... .]V.
7d598802 00000000 54445300 50445300 01000000 d4fe1900 4e885100 2bced1f7  }Y.. .... TDS. PDS. .... .... N.Q. +...
d4fe1900 e1895100 00000000 00000000 c4fe1900 ec895100 c4fe1900 f3045100  .... ..Q. .... .... .... ..Q. .... ..Q.
7c598802 54a25200 00000000 f8585700 581fe808 a805e808 010d1ef5 80ff1900  |Y.. T.R. .... .XW. X... .... .... ....
a3a25200 00000000 22000000 00000000 04000000 344d5100 00004000 00000000  ..R. .... "... .... .... 4MQ. ..@. ....
7d598802 0a000000 740751f5 10736f00 10736f00 00302b00 44000000 c0aa8902  }Y.. .... t.Q. .so. .so. .0+. D... ....
08d28802 701a8a02 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  .... p... .... .... .... .... .... ....
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff 950000c0  .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
02000000 06000000 00000000 10736f00 00ff1900 00f41900 ccff1900 30925100  .... .... .... .so. .... .... .... 0.Q.
dc001ef5 01000000 94ff1900 5486c474 00302b00 3086c474 e1720604 dcff1900  .... .... .... T..t .0+. 0..t .r.. ....
774af676 00302b00 77cfd1f7 00000000 00000000 00302b00 950000c0 00000000  wJ.v .0+. w... .... .... .0+. .... ....
c8f31900 d0d50475 77cfd1f7 a0ff1900 c8f31900 e4ff1900 506af776 d3cb3781  .... ...u w... .... .... .... Pj.v ..7.
00000000 ecff1900 474af676 ffffffff 039ff876 00000000 00000000 10736f00  .... .... GJ.v .... ...v .... .... .so.
00302b00 00000000 -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- --------  .0+. ....


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PostPosted: Sun, 25. Feb 18, 04:44    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

New X3 player here Smile

I saw a let’s play with the litcube mod and was interested in trying it out.

Just a few quick questions.

Is the mod finalized and stable? I ask because a new patch was recently released and, to my knowledge, the last update to this mod was over a year ago. Are there any plans to update the mod?

Also, the mayhem submod has been continuously updated. So I was wondering if the changes to that mod stopped being incorporated into Litcube due to changes in direction between both modders. I noticed mayhem disables some features in litcube.

I appreciate the answers.

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PostPosted: Sun, 25. Feb 18, 19:10    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Express44 wrote:
New X3 player here Smile

I saw a let’s play with the litcube mod and was interested in trying it out.

Just a few quick questions.

Is the mod finalized and stable? I ask because a new patch was recently released and, to my knowledge, the last update to this mod was over a year ago. Are there any plans to update the mod?

I just got into this mod myself and have been playing it for about a week. Stability not much of a concern tbh and there are no "holes" in content so to speak.


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PostPosted: Mon, 26. Feb 18, 03:03    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

@canshow, Are you positive your installation is correct? (WikiLink)

Having the game crash in that location is highly out of the ordinary, We have never seen a crash with that sort of stack loaction, and thats a script that gets used by literally every ship in the game.

If everything is in order, then just wait and see if you get any further crashes, if they start occurring in diffrent locations, i'd actually start to look into testing your RAM, and looking for other external factors. If they continue to occur in the same location, there may be a corruption or a glitch with the mission ships being spawned.


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PostPosted: Mon, 26. Feb 18, 11:41    Post subject: [LU] Dockware Manager Question Reply with quote Print

The following part of the wiki page is really confusing me -

When a ware is set to overstock, Freighters will continue to stock the ware despite the capacity settings. Additionally, Dock Agents will not sell wares set to overstock.

This doesn't make sense in my head - I want them to bring in overstock, so that anything above the capacity in my HQ is sold. But according to the above, that won't happen?? So I either have overstock set to no and the stock piles up in the source (not what I want, I want everything stored centrally) or I have it set to yes and stock piles up in my HQ but is never sold....

What is the answer?? I just want to centralise everything as much as possible.

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PostPosted: Mon, 26. Feb 18, 11:51    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I remember my DAs selling the overstocked wares, did you try it yourself?

But maybe I'm wrong and I had changed the script. Anyway, you could also set the capacity setting to a very high value.


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PostPosted: Mon, 26. Feb 18, 16:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Joubarbe wrote:
I remember my DAs selling the overstocked wares, did you try it yourself?

But maybe I'm wrong and I had changed the script. Anyway, you could also set the capacity setting to a very high value.



Hey thanks for the reply. It seems it is working, they sell the overstock wares - just the wording of the description in the wiki is really not correct Razz unless I'm just a dumb dumb. It's all good tho Smile

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PostPosted: Mon, 26. Feb 18, 17:19    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Jack08 wrote:
@canshow, Are you positive your installation is correct? (WikiLink)

Having the game crash in that location is highly out of the ordinary, We have never seen a crash with that sort of stack loaction, and thats a script that gets used by literally every ship in the game.

If everything is in order, then just wait and see if you get any further crashes, if they start occurring in diffrent locations, i'd actually start to look into testing your RAM, and looking for other external factors. If they continue to occur in the same location, there may be a corruption or a glitch with the mission ships being spawned.

Clean install and all, extracted everything into the game directory in the proper order and none of those issues really present. This happened in a patrol in terran space, after a second group of a xenon caps and her escorts jumped a minute or two after the first group ***before*** they were cleared. Before the game crashed there was a bit of sporadic lagging that was going on for a couple of seconds - I've experienced it before maybe one or two times in similar situations where there were groups of enemy fighters but it fixed itself very quickly.

On that note, I have also noticed a few other irregularities. 1) When jettisoning the SETA device, it's always been 15km or farther from me , at least in a sirokos and near meters from a dock. 2) Washi ship graphics become transparent when you're like with-in 1km of it, 3) Collision can happen when entering your ship (from spacewalking) that is next to (<100m) another ship



Unrelated and for others players -if you guys want an easy way to nerf phanon corp
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just go into their sector and lure out their fighters with an m6 or an m7, away from their m1. they prioritize on replacing their losses, so you can effectively bottleneck their growth by killing like 30 of their fighters every couple of in-game days or so.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28. Feb 18, 03:52    Post subject: Fighters launched from carriers Reply with quote Print

Hey all

I was curious if there is a way for my carrier to launch, say, 12 of my M3's first and then the other 12 only when 50% of the original ones are dead? Does assigning wing colours help at all, or does MLCC ignore wings?

I have a Griffon with 24 Aamon's and would rather they didn't all launch in one go as it's a bit much! I know you can change the number of fighters in the MLCC config section, but I imagine this number is how many will be stored on the carrier, rather than how many are deployed?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed, 28. Feb 18, 10:34    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Canshow, you made a mistake installing for sure. I have played dozens of hours, done a ton of patrol missions both in terran space and with all the other races, and never encountered any problem. I never had a crash, and haven't encountered the irregularities you mention.

Try again, you did something wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1. Mar 18, 00:29    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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Canshow, you made a mistake installing for sure. I have played dozens of hours, done a ton of patrol missions both in terran space and with all the other races, and never encountered any problem. I never had a crash, and haven't encountered the irregularities you mention.

Try again, you did something wrong.

Installed X3 from steam, moved directly to hdd directory, and then followed 'setup guideline A' to the letter. Don't see how doing any of that could have messed up my installation.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1. Mar 18, 01:33    Post subject: Easy Phanon Reply with quote Print

During my play I accidentally found the easiest way to stop development of the Phanon Corporation. Becomes even easier with the Satellites Monitoring mod.
When I set up my satellite network in each sector of the map I could monitor the movement of Phanon Universal Traders. I then jumped and hunted them all down until none were flying around. Many of the freighters don't have front mounted turrets and none use Chaff missiles, so a torpedo to the head from several kilometers away always hits, ramming them in an M6 also makes a 3 second fight. Money inflow without universal traders is significantly lower for Phanon. Then I took a swift fighter loaded with 2 Remote Guided Warheads and several smaller missiles just in case, jumped into the Sanctuary of Darkness and killed the Phanon TL ship. Now Phanon is stuck trying to gather 40 millions for a TL without universal traders. Phanon Colossus is helpless once it has no fighters, easy to dispose of by getting him to jump right into a Ring of Fire to protect a Phanon factory from you. Phanon bomber also succumbs to a swift M6. Once I started hitting the headquarters the Phanon deleted all of its stations and congratulated me with a message.
I played with Phanon Plus installed, but this tactic works every time. Kind of a bummer that it was too easy.

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PostPosted: Thu, 1. Mar 18, 02:42    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Taking out the first generations of Phanon should be easy, by design. And performing effective guerilla tactics will likely give you an advantage against any foe. So to be honest I'm not sure what you're complaining about, to me it sounds like "if I perform smart tactics against starting level Phanon, I manage to beat them easily, what a bummer".

Note that Phanon will also be defeated (and upgraded to the next level) if they simply go down (economically and military) too much, no need to attack their HQ. That's also by design (so that you don't take advantage of them taking ages to recover after critical blows).


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PostPosted: Thu, 1. Mar 18, 09:30    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Well, X3 is past its prime and I don't think we'll see more LU or Phanon Plus updates while everyone is waiting for X4. There are ways to improve and protect Phanon freighters. But the freighters and their TL are the heart and blood of the Phanon economy, taking them out of the picture destroys the corporation.

Started playing X3 out of the nostalgia I developed for the game after 10 years. Decided to try out X3LU to add meaning and challenge to the game. Gotta beat the OCV now and then try out X3LU + Mayhem.


P.S. Phanon should use freighters with turrets both in front and the back to shoot down incoming missiles or at least use Chaff to protect itself, also use the emergency jump drive. The TL should not be lurking in their home sector but be docked to the HQ so that it can't be sabotaged by a missile armed fighter. But yeah, I'm years late with my suggestions.

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PostPosted: Thu, 1. Mar 18, 13:08    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Sephiros wrote:
Well, X3 is past its prime and I don't think we'll see more LU or Phanon Plus updates while everyone is waiting for X4. There are ways to improve and protect Phanon freighters. But the freighters and their TL are the heart and blood of the Phanon economy, taking them out of the picture destroys the corporation.

Started playing X3 out of the nostalgia I developed for the game after 10 years. Decided to try out X3LU to add meaning and challenge to the game. Gotta beat the OCV now and then try out X3LU + Mayhem.


P.S. Phanon should use freighters with turrets both in front and the back to shoot down incoming missiles or at least use Chaff to protect itself, also use the emergency jump drive. The TL should not be lurking in their home sector but be docked to the HQ so that it can't be sabotaged by a missile armed fighter. But yeah, I'm years late with my suggestions.


Did you actually fight them at higher levels yet? Because their TS are only the heart at the start. After a few levels, tipping over their trade network won't put a dent in their passive income.


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