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PostPosted: Fri, 20. Apr 12, 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear!!! There seems to be 244 Point Singularity Projectors in my Mamoth OOOPS!!! was going to be 500 as a test but the size of the item only allows 244 with the other bits in the hold. That was from 1 in my Hyp, transfered to Mamoth. On a side note I tried it a total of 6 times with Missiles ect to a Drake and the Frieght Drone count goes up with each transfer. So I have 7 Drones now not 1
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PostPosted: Fri, 20. Apr 12, 21:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

definetly explains the supereasy start, get 1 hammerhead, (vol is 1), super clone it, has 2 bill in 10 mins....takes longer to sell the whole thing...


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PostPosted: Fri, 20. Apr 12, 21:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

ThommoHawk wrote:
Kudos to Bothersome, and X3 Master Pro: I was at some stage tempted to offer $100* just for you to keep this a secret forever just so I could sit back and be further entertained by some impatient and rather frustrated probing/prodding that was going on here on by some (you know who you are folks Very Happy ).
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To be honest I am just as impressed by the CAG setup and the neat, precise way everything is working.... if not more so...

Anyhow imo you were absolutely entitled to do this your way, thanks and cheers.


Thanks for the kind words. It would have had to been released eventually to proove that I was not full of BS and that it did actually exist. I was just hoping someone else could find it and post it here instead of me providing the answer.

And just as you pointed out above, the exploit is nothing in accomplishment compared to what is offered in game #1. And even in game #2, there is a unique challenge offered to the community that is not offered in any of the standard starts. Now that everyone knows the exploit, it will be interesting if others will create starts that have something unique about their games.

I wonder if any apologies will come from those that were insinuating that I was lying about it's existence?

This is probably the most interesting thread on the forum right now, but as some other poster would say, there's "nothing to see here." Who laughing now? Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 21. Apr 12, 00:14    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

since it is yourself that has posted it i will congradulate you and as i said i would i will appologise...

for any comments i have made that made out you were cheating in some way to achieve this i am sorry...

and thank you for the exploit...


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PostPosted: Sat, 21. Apr 12, 00:35    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

@Bothersome Brothers

Kudos on the exploit and one of the most entertaining "Dangling Carrot" threads I have ever seen on here...

We all take our "X Worlds" seriously, some more serious than others...

I have been a long-time player, but never advanced my game enough to see a PHQ, UFJD, ARAN and a lovely collection of Major Ships to experiment with. Thank you for SAVE1 & SAVE2...

SAVE2 is a nice clean start, with a major jump forward, almost too fast.
I realize that the Infrastructure required to support even 1 PHQ is massive, but usually sorted by the Quest Requirements. I have yet to study SAVE1, but i am very interested in techniques at that scale, and many have commented on the structure. Looking forward to learning quite a bit.... KUDOS to both....

Can you help me with one little thing? SAVE2 starts in an Unknown Sector with no Gates that I have been able to find. Ergo, I cannot find my way back after i jump out. There are several PHQ's in that sector storage.
I realize that there are 3 PHQ in storage a Legends Home, and that will probably be enough to start an advanced game.

Anyway Thanx for the entertainment and the Savegames to study...

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PostPosted: Sat, 21. Apr 12, 01:03    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

GeminiFire, thanks for the kind words.

I'm going to put my reply about game save #2 in the spoiler below...
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The game starts you out in an Unfocused Jump Sector. The only way out is to jump out (a ship with a jump drive and energy and Shift-J). The challenge for that start is to figure out a way to save all 7 player headquarters, even the ones in that unfocussed space. It can be done, but you cannot be in the ship when it jumps if you want to save the last two. (just a hint)
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If you do not care for all 7 PHQs then just play with the 3 you found and continue from there to build your empire. Of course, you could exploit 4 more or even more PHQs yourself. But then, you kind of take away the challenge of the start.

ConCorDian, thank you, your apology accepted.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21. Apr 12, 20:20    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Awesome thread, very entertaining, with a happy ending. Man you should write a book Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 22. Apr 12, 04:25    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Having thought about this a bit more (I will title it "The Bothersome-Expert Incident" Very Happy ), what really stands out to me now, is these guys knew about this for what - 3 years? (not sure) but a looooong while anyways. I doubt that anyone else could have contianed this higly classified info for as long as they did. Most folks would have been bursting themselves to post it up on a thread. So with that as a thought, I would not have blamed these guys if they had extended the time for the GREAT REVEAL for even a month or more. Interesting contrubutions like this can only enhance this forum ...


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PostPosted: Sun, 22. Apr 12, 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Wow, this certainly is/was an interesting thread - fun read, too Smile

As for the exploit itself ... wow, just, wow. Nice catch! Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 22. Apr 12, 10:27    Post subject: Congrats! Reply with quote Print

Congratulations on the revelations and a most entertaining thread Bothersome, enjoy the kudos fellas!



I will point out here that, though I seem to have developed a reputation in certain circles as a clumsy, difficult debater who is likely to go off the deep end at the least provocation? I have been reading this thread from the beginning and adding in posts of my own, I AM NOT one of the many wolves who beset Bothersome with demeaning accusations and now owe him an apology!
SORRY Bothersome for lowering the tone of this post but I do not have long before the wolves gather and banish me from these forums forever!


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PostPosted: Mon, 23. Apr 12, 01:19    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

ThommoHawk wrote:
Having thought about this a bit more (I will title it "The Bothersome-Expert Incident" Very Happy ), what really stands out to me now, is these guys knew about this for what - 3 years? (not sure) but a looooong while anyways. I doubt that anyone else could have contianed this higly classified info for as long as they did. Most folks would have been bursting themselves to post it up on a thread. So with that as a thought, I would not have blamed these guys if they had extended the time for the GREAT REVEAL for even a month or more. Interesting contrubutions like this can only enhance this forum ...


Well for some ppl this game is "just a game"...the rest can argue this statement forever Laughing


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