BUG? UT/LT/ST traders not jumping in AP

[ReadyMan]

I've been playing AP for a bit now (just completed the hub mission) and have 50 or so UT/LT/ST ships trading.
However, regardless of each of them having jump drives, and being lvl 25, I havent had one ship jump when attacked.
I always get the message "your ship in such and such a sector is being attacked", I'll check on the map, and sure enough, there he is trying to flee the sector, having ejected his drones. They usually dont make it, as often I dont get the message until they are mostly dead.

I know they dont jump when attacked because I havent seen any messages at all since starting AP "so and so trader was attacked and jumped to xyz sector". I used to get those message all the time in TC. I've gone back thru the logs and not found a single message.

They jump just fine to go about their trading though...just not when attacked. (and yes they do have energy cells on board)

Is there an option or setting that I'm missing? Or do traders not jump in AP when attacked?

When I first started AP I noticed this, but figured the traders were just too low of a level. I know that's not the case now.

Thanks for any help!


--EDIT-- been digging for a while and found this in the FAQ:

Note: MK3 traders (Sector Traders, etc.) have their own rules for using jumpdrives, and ignore the Advanced Jumpdrive Configuration.

This just makes it more curious why my traders wont jump when attacked....though they will dock at a port and send me a message that they are done with their command when they have taken hull damage (but still no message that they were attacked in the first place, or that they jumped away from danger)

[lubnius]

Emergency Jump <<< Yes >>>
Emergency Jump Shield Treshold <<< 100% >>>

[ReadyMan]

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
I was thinking that this was an AP bug, because in TC I dont recall ever making those two adjustments to my dozens of traders.

[ReadyMan]

No, that doesnt work, as The TS ships dont have that option to emergency jump. One thread said only m6 and bigger ships get this.

So is this an AP bug then? There's no way to get the ST/UTs to jump away if they are being attacked? That's a deal breaker for me....

TC had this, so what happened to AP?

[jkjklkl]

Is it the bug where your ships do nothing when attacked? I thought that was patched out

[Jumee]

mine do jump, so it is not a bug, also emergency jump might only work on M6's but UT/ST use their own algorithms so it does not matter what you set in the ship commands

[ReadyMan]

Well that's odd then.
I went through all the messages since I started AP, and not even one message stating "trader X was attacked and jumped to sector Y". However, they jump just fine to do trading, and they are all equipped with the necessary stuff (mk 1,2, 3 trading software, commodity software 1 and 2, fight command mk1 and 2, explorer command, carrier command, nav command mk1, patrol command, special command mk1, trading extension), just to be sure.

I've lost probably 30 or so traders, and have at least 30 current LTs at lvl 20 and 20 UTs at lvl 25.

It worked great in TC, and if someone has it working in AP, then what am I missing?

[Jumee]

[ReadyMan]

[Jumee]

[ReadyMan]

very discouraging.

I've got all that, and just watched a lvl 25 get attacked by 4 pirates, dump his drones, dock at a port, trade, then jump out of sector, with 100 energy cells left. No message whatsoever.

There must be a logical reason. I'm not using any mods, but am using the bonus pack for AP. I am using the blacklist (Ihave 30 or so sectors blacklisted since the traders wont jump when attacked)....which is the only thing I can think that I've changed.
I tried changing the Autojump settings, but that didnt work (and I didnt think it would).

I'm using all mistral freighters.

I'm thinking it's an odd bug for AP.

[ReadyMan]

As far as I can tell, the settings in TC are the same as in AP.
All the foes are the same (which was a hunch).

Finishing the main plot and the hub plot in AP and having not even ONE trader (out of over 100) use his jump drive to escape shows that it's a bug.

Jkjklkl: This isnt the "do nothing when attacked" bug, as the traders dump drones and dock during an attack.

[ReadyMan]

Does anyone else have UTs and/or STs that will jump when attacked and post a message that they were attacked and escaped to sector X (in AP with the bonus pack)?

[Kapakio]

Well ReadyMan, you've got another one.

Yesterday I saw one of my UTs running from a pirate attack to dock to a nearby station instead of jumping. He released the drones and fortunately he made it to the station before loosing the shields.

There's definitely something happening here.

[ThommoHawk]

I have noted a change too. I have always been a heavy user of UT's, in all games since X2 The Threat.

One of my UT's refused to jump while under attack and died under the guns of a Xenon Q. I reloded to observe the OOS replay and watched as my UT came out of the sector gate - that it was soon followed by the Q. The Q closed in on it and the the UT (just a humble Mercury Super freighter) released its fighter drones but made no attempt to jump, and was killed. I reloaded again for a second replay to check out the actions of the UT as it tried to escape the Q.

I was astonished and astounded to find that while the control panel info said sell wares; energy cells... the action was saying 'killing ... Xenon Q'

Very mad UT behaviour. Obviously the pilot is insane, or crazed by spaceweed.

but since have noted that all my UTs do the same when under attack instead of jumping so I suspect is is some sort of change made to the fight command software mark 1 and 2 ... which as far as I know from all my other experiences they need as part of their defence routine.

UT behaviour notes.

1) UTs should never need emergency jump enabled to jump out on being attacked. They are supposed to jump asap and in past versions only failed to do so if out of energy cells.

Question; in TC all my UT's sold their mosquito missiles which I thoughtfully tried to equip them with for mosquito missile defence mosquito enabled (as 'missiles are now a major part of the XUniverse experience'). Has anyone noticed this to change in AP yet? Do they still try making money on the side by selling off their defence assets?

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