[X3AP] Ship/sector stats/maps (WIP)

Legionos · Post by **Legionos** » Thu, 29. Dec 11, 23:48

Yes it did

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Fri, 30. Dec 11, 00:23

What are the co-ordinates?

Do they match mine?
Saturn; 44.7 / 14.9 / -10.7

Legionos · Post by **Legionos** » Fri, 30. Dec 11, 02:54

No, and ive just checked your JB list and none of mine are in the same positions as yours.

DonVincenzo · Post by **DonVincenzo** » Fri, 30. Dec 11, 12:46

Roguey, I've got a pirate base not mentioned on your map in Unknown Sector East from Unseen Domain.

Coordinates:
-73.4km
-203m
-27.0km

Speaking of Unseen Domain I'm missing the two Solar Power Plant (not sure if it's an act of GoD) and the Snail Ranch is not located at the same coordinates:
-47.2km
-12.6km
-14.1km

Guess the Pirate Base in Spring of Belief got relocated as well.
Again, not sure if GoD can do that or not

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Fri, 30. Dec 11, 13:15

The PBs shown on the map will be the start positions, the local military has a habit of blasting these and they appear at random locations.
We went through that in TC.
Thus your locations are unique.
It is annoying when you're trying pick up Marines chasing around the galaxy for Pirate Bases that simply don't exist when you arrive...

DonVincenzo · Post by **DonVincenzo** » Fri, 30. Dec 11, 14:46

Whoops my bad!

infy dev · Post by **infy dev** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 11:53

Roguey, you've listed the Chokaro as unbuyable, but it can be bought from the Yaki shipyard. there's also an Advanced Chokaro you haven't listed (or there was in TC, and I think I've seen one in AP), which can't be bought but is boardable; I think it can hold more ships but I don't recall what other differences it might have from the base model.

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 12:05

@DonVincenzo @Ripskar
Sounds like jump-beacon information cant be added to the sector maps then. If they are random for each game, then theres no way to add this info.

@infy dev
Are yaki ships actually buy-able? Do they not require a high rank with the Yaki, which is near impossible to earn?

Ware information added:
I have added the ware information to the X3AP site. Okay, I did it a lazy way and simply imported the ware tables from X3TC, however nothing has changed between X3TC and X3AP. You may ask why add this information to the X3AP site then?... well the ware pages uses the sector and dock information from X3AP, telling where things can be brought from in X3AP. I guess it might help some people with ware information too.

ie. if you wanted to find out where a bio-scanner was sold, just look here... or say you were looking where to get a jump-drive, just look here. I know there are few times you ask: where can I buy a <item>? So hopefully the ware pages should help with this.

- Roguey's X3AP ware information,

I hope it helps,

infy dev · Post by **infy dev** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 12:11

Roguey wrote:@infy dev
Are yaki ships actually buy-able? Do they not require a high rank with the Yaki, which is near impossible to earn?

I just bought three of them; they're my UT ship of choice (as described elsewhere).

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 12:19

As Terran you have access to the Shipyard from the start, don't know about Argon but I'm flying a Chokaro now.
The page on the jumpdrive doesn't list Elysium of Light?

infy dev · Post by **infy dev** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 12:34

Ripskar wrote:As Terran you have access to the Shipyard from the start, don't know about Argon but I'm flying a Chokaro now.

likewise with Poisoned Paranid, which is the start I'm using - this is also true in TC.

I also had access to Duke's Haven without hacking it, although nobody has bothered to tell the defenders so when I visit I have to race in ahead of the missiles.

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » Sat, 31. Dec 11, 13:37

Ah thanks, yaki ships have been updated and dock information on both yaki station (in Senator Bad Lands) has been added.

ChristensenCT · Post by **ChristensenCT** » Mon, 2. Jan 12, 05:23

Roguey, thanks for taking the time to put all of this information on the website, I've been using it almost every time I launch X3AP.

Anyway, if you don't mind the suggestion, the Unknown Sector you have listed West of Rhy's Desire should be called Rhy's Crusade.

Also, are you aware of any sector not already listed on your map? I hit them all and my profile says I've visited 237 sectors but I have yet to get the "Traveler" achievement in Steam.

Finally (almost done), I have included a save file with full access to Terran/ATF and Yaki shipyards if you are so inclined to update your ship availability and price listing. Hope this helps! http://www.filedropper.com/x06

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Mon, 2. Jan 12, 11:06

The output from Scorps Map shows the Hub Sector, though there is no way to reach it yet.

ChristensenCT · Post by **ChristensenCT** » Mon, 2. Jan 12, 11:09

@Ripskar Impossible! How am I supposed to get my achievement?

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Mon, 2. Jan 12, 11:14

The Hub plot will be added in a patch at some point.

BanzalX3 · Post by **BanzalX3** » Mon, 2. Jan 12, 15:18

Map looks excellent, good job, now if only steam browser would let me bookmark pages

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » Tue, 3. Jan 12, 11:24

ChristensenCT wrote:Roguey, thanks for taking the time to put all of this information on the website, I've been using it almost every time I launch X3AP.

Thanks, always nice to hear its useful

ChristensenCT wrote:Anyway, if you don't mind the suggestion, the Unknown Sector you have listed West of Rhy's Desire should be called Rhy's Crusade.

Ah oops - okay thats been updated.

ChristensenCT wrote:Also, are you aware of any sector not already listed on your map? I hit them all and my profile says I've visited 237 sectors but I have yet to get the "Traveler" achievement in Steam.

I havnt really looked at the achievement list in steam yet. Ive got a few from playing it, but just got them from whilst playing. atm I have 237 sectors in the database.

ChristensenCT wrote:Finally (almost done), I have included a save file with full access to Terran/ATF and Yaki shipyards if you are so inclined to update your ship availability and price listing. Hope this helps! http://www.filedropper.com/x06

Oh, thanks for that. However the availability of ship is checked by tables and isnt something I have manually done. ie. the site knows what is sold at every shipyard, equipment dock and trading dock in the game. So hopefully all the availabilities are correct..

However there is one thing you guys can help with - ship prices. The price field was copied from X3TC. Some ships weren't buy able, so they got the price left at 0. However as more ships are being sold now, some still have a 0 to them. Always take the price for S version of the ship.

To make it easy for me, if you know of a price of a ship and want to help, please write something like:

Code: Select all

Update id='220' price='236784'

The id comes from the address ie:
http://x3ap.roguey.co.uk/ships/mod-0/ship-220.html

Ripskar wrote:The output from Scorps Map shows the Hub Sector, though there is no way to reach it yet.

oohh sounds interesting. Sounds like there will be some more content to follow...

@egosoft you have a error in a stat:
- Terran Mani

Capacity: 650 to 105 (guessing that should be 1050?)

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Tue, 3. Jan 12, 12:16

Update id= '199' price='41034'
Update id= '204' price='76182339'
Update id= '202' price='36893300'

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » Tue, 3. Jan 12, 13:19

thanks Ripskar, those prices have been added

I have also added a few more Terran/ATF prices too.

[random thoughts] Just been thinking a few things about the ship section. Maybe changing the layout, or adding a third page to the ship section (ie when clicking the picture of the ship?)

maybe something like this?

[ external image ]

I guess it could even be a youtube video there instead of a picture. Although what do you think? and something like this would need help from you guys. No way I can do this alone on 350 ships!

is the 300 x 200 image good enough? although bandwidth could be an issue with a single large image.

just some random thoughts...

{Oversize image changed to thumbnail - Terre}

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[X3AP] Ship/sector stats/maps (WIP)