X3AP: Poisoned paranid annoying bug

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X3AP: Poisoned paranid annoying bug

Post by Kzorsh » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 00:31

Started Poisoned paranid
Killed 1 pegasus vanguard, while leaving the sector .
After that ... never encountered paranids in combat .
Completed start's quest .
Gained rep with paranid.
Priest's confidante

And now something strange ... 80% of Paranids are friendly .
But 20% are somehow hostile . (Also 15% of them - will become friendly if you say "oh sorry, my bad", 5% - wont ... no matter what )
Also ... some random Paranid stations are Hostile o_O Even in new sectors ... i never was before

p.s. Its insanely annoying to COMM with every hostile paranid i met >_< Aaaaargh ...
p.p.s.
If nothing helps me ...
Ok ... i'll enter the role of "poisoned paranid"
I was poisoned, and boron cured me .
But something went wrong.
And now i'm psychotic maniac paranid, wanting all paranids to die @_@

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Post by Snafu_X3 » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 01:03

It's a bit of an odd start (odd = misleading in this case)

If, once you get out of the Paranid sector(s), you do missions for Paranid (via Paranid on non-Paranid stations) you can become neutral to Paranid (ie not KoS); but you can never gain higher Paranid rank until you are 'cured'. This means no Paranid ships will attack you unless you attack them first, (whereupon your Paranid rep will drop instantly & you go back to being KoS) & you can't trade with Paranid stations.

Once you're 'cured' you retain the Paranid reputation you had before /with the race as a whole/, but any stations/ships whose homebased ships you have killed/attacked in the meantime will remain hostile, just as any other start & any other homebased ships. There may be a random smattering of 'hostile' Paranid ships/stations as well, but I've never bothered to chase this theory up this far.

Umm.. hope this makes sense & helps! At least the reward is worth doing the start for :)
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Post by Kzorsh » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 01:06

This is hell ... i killed 1 ... 1 (!!!) Pegasus at start... and now in every paranid sector there are at least 3-6 hostile military ships ><

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Post by Kzorsh » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 02:38

Also .. .the thing is ... i like trading ... building an empire in this game ...

And now its nearly impossible to build anything or to trade (uni or sector traders) in paranid space ... because of turrets and some psycho paranids...

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Post by (----____JEFF____----) » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 00:12

I don't think this is a bug, at least it's always been like this afaik.

I recently (~1 month ago) started the bankrupt assassin start in TC and there the Boron are hostile. Now I never attacked one of them, but even after gaining rep some ships/lasertowers/stations were still hostile.

I thought it was rather annoying so I made a hotkey to send an apology to them (any object you can target) to turn them neutral (so you can also apologize to lasertowers and stations). I haven't tested the hotkey on AP yet and I don't know if you even want to install scripts to deal with this issue (it basically means you get a ***modified*** game). It's the ADAMS-AAH script in my sig if you want to know more about it, I'll do some testing in AP sometime soon but I think most TC scripts have little to no issues with AP.

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Post by DHSkully » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 14:11

Nice one, I just got my Hyp and was a bit miffed to find I was always having to appologise for fire when I did not LOL
Going to give it a spin now.

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Post by BeardyDan » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 14:42

Same here, a bunch of mines & Lasertowers are still hostile plus some ships listed as "escorts" that were not moving, at Friend of Priest Duke.

Cos' all the trading stations had a laser tower I had to buy my police licence from Duke's Haven.

Sometimes on re-entering a sector the towers & ships will have turned neutral, but not the mines.

BTW the Hyperion crashes on leaving the new Boron equipment docks.
:evil:

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Post by Kzorsh » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 14:53

Ramming all paranid lasertowers now ... with my 230 speed hyperion ...
What a mess >_< I'm friend of emperor, but some lasertowers still hate me ... and you cant say "sorry" to them

To all who want to start "Poisoned Paranid": Do not ! I repeat, do not attack anything while you're leaving paranid's start sector .

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Post by DHSkully » Wed, 21. Dec 11, 12:24

Works a treat, I tried it and is very good. Just bind it to a key and you are away. I still get the odd Capital ship not responding but normaly if there are some police escorts about once they have been made frielndly again the capitals will acept. The good thing about it, is the station's and laser towers as said before you can't com' them to say sory. :roll:
I may go off topic a little here, I started the PP plot as It was the best way to get the HYP (in my eyes) but would have liked to be able to do the full AP missions. I just read in the 'AP servival guide' posted today. that there is only really one game start to do the full missions. the Argon start.
I dont know if mines is broken but I am in 3 game starts deep now, 1: Argon, 2: Terran commander, 3: PP. The Argon start I got to a stage now that just sees me bouncing back and forth from AB to HE, CoL & OL. I get to one and there are a few fights going on, then I jump out and back again and the stations are ours again same in Terran start, I just get the updades on progres or told to get to it you have youre orders. No missions in the Missoin log. ?? Will copy out my save folder again and restart the Argon one again.

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Post by DHSkully » Wed, 21. Dec 11, 12:31

Ohh!! the crashing from large Stations that let you dock inside rather than outside is quite common and a sort of bug left over from the the old X3's. Again I read to find the problem and all you have to do is bring up the sector map and request docking permission with a near by station. That way you are in auto not manual mode. Hope that helps.

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