AP: Slower the more you play?

omik · Post by **omik** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 03:41

I guess the question I have is: Does the game just get slower the longer you play? I'm currently 20 hours into AP, and it is MUCH slower than my 10 hour save game, which runs almost completely smooth.

EDIT: Even if I restart AP or my computer, it is still as laggy as before, so this isn't an issue about my playing session building up lag.

I don't have any factories built, and I only have one sector trader (Though I have about 15 other ships parked through about 7 other sectors). Will performance increase if I park all of the ships in the same sector? Or is it due to the age of the universe?

As a note, changing graphics settings from max to lowest doesn't change the FPS at all, so I'm thinking this might be due to the processing of the game's universe?

EDIT: I've decided to include my dxdiag, I have the latest nvidia drivers, SP1, and all of the latest windows updates.

Here is the dxdiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/17/2011, 13:55:44
Machine name: HOME-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/23/07 20:00:42 Ver: 08.00.12
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
Page File: 2004MB used, 6184MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 460
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_0865196E&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2785 MB
Dedicated Memory: 993 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: W2252
Monitor Id: GSM567E
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.8562 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.8562
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/15/2011 00:53:00, 15693120 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
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Revision ID: 0x00A1
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Logitech USB Headset)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: USB\VID_046D&PID_0A14&REV_0130&MI_00
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:43:52, 109696 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_198B&SUBSYS_104381F6&REV_1002
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
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Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:44:23, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (Logitech USB Headset)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:43:52, 109696 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 02:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Cordless Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Cordless Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Cordless Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Cordless Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2830
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
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+ Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&class_001a&col01
| Lower Filters: LHidFilt
| Service: kbdhid
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+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
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+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
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+ Logitech HID-compliant Unifying mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&class_0004
| Upper Filters: LMouFilt
| Lower Filters: LHidFilt
| Service: mouhid
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+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
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Total Space: 953.8 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device

Drive: D:
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Total Space: 152.6 GB
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Drive: E:
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Total Space: 286.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Maxtor 6L300S0 ATA Device

Drive: F:
Free Space: 74.5 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0 ATA Device

Drive: J:
Free Space: 0.1 GB
Total Space: 0.1 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device

Drive: H:
Model: UVKNGDE 852VGDYN01EZ SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

Drive: I:
Model: UVKNGDE 852VGDYN01EZ SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

Drive: G:
Model: _NEC DVD+-RW ND-3530A ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) P965/G965 Processor to I/O Controller - 29A0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29A0&SUBSYS_81EA1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2835
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2835&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_F2\3&11583659&0&F0
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_284B&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2834&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D0
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
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Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 2849
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2849&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2832
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2832&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&EA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2847
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2847&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E4
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2831&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E9
Driver: n/a

Name: Generic Marvell Yukon 88E8056 based Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4364&SUBSYS_43401148&REV_12\4&360CE69C&0&00E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 283F
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283F&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2830&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E8
Driver: n/a

Name: Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4320&SUBSYS_811A1043&REV_14\4&E6D76C4&0&20F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family SMBus Controller - 283E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283E&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2825
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2825&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FD
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_0865196E&REV_A1\4&2F1DAB93&0&0008
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283A&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D7
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2820
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2820&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FA
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0BEB&SUBSYS_0865196E&REV_A1\4&2F1DAB93&0&0108
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) P965/G965 PCI Express Root Port - 29A1
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29A1&SUBSYS_277D8086&REV_02\3&11583659&0&08
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2836&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&EF
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH8/ICH8R Family LPC Interface Controller - 2810
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2810&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&F8
Driver: n/a

Name: Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8023&SUBSYS_815B1043&REV_00\4&E6D76C4&0&18F0
Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
AAudioRipper,0x00200000,0,0,AudioRipper.ax,
ffdshow Video Decoder,0xff800001,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
Gretech ASF Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder,0xff800002,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
ffdshow raw video filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
Gretech MPEG Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
ffdshow Audio Decoder,0xff800001,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPC - Mpeg Source (Gabest),0x00400000,0,0,MpegSplitter.ax,1.04.2499.0000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
MONOGRAM AMR Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
ManyCam Video Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,MCVDec.ax,
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DivX AAC Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,daac.ax,8.08.0000.41966
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
MPC - MP4 Source,0x00600000,0,0,MP4Splitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Gretech Video Filter,0x00200000,1,1,GVF.ax,
MPC - FLV Splitter (Gabest),0x00600000,1,1,FLVSplitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Gretech OGG Source Filter2,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
WavPack Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSDecoder.ax,1.01.0000.0484
Gretech FLV Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
Gretech MPEG Source Filter2,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MONOGRAM AMR Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MONOGRAM Musepack Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mmmpcdec.ax,0.09.0002.0000
Haali Media Splitter,0x00800001,0,1,splitter.ax,
Haali Media Splitter (AR),0x00400000,1,1,splitter.ax,
Gretech AsfEx Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
MPC - MP4 Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,MP4Splitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
File Source (Monkey Audio),0x00400000,0,1,MonkeySource.ax,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
madFlac Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,madFlac.ax,1.08.0000.0000
Gretech AVI Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Gretech Network(OGG) Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GNF.ax,
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX H.264 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,h264dec.ax,9.00.0001.0021
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX Demux Filter,0x00800002,0,1,DirectShowDemuxFilter.dll,1.00.0003.0111
Haali Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,dxr.dll,
DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.03.0000.0048
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Gretech Audio Filter,0x00200000,1,1,GAF.ax,
DivX Demux Filter (Unrestricted Edition),0x00600000,0,1,DirectShowDemuxFilter.dll,1.00.0003.0111
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Gretech Network(FLV) Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GNF.ax,
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Gretech OGG Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
Gretech Network(AVI) Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GNF.ax,
Haali Simple Media Splitter,0x00200000,0,1,splitter.ax,
DirectVobSub,0x00200000,2,1,vsfilter.dll,2.39.0005.0003
Gretech MKV Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
MONOGRAM AMR Encoder,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Matroska Muxer,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MONOGRAM AMR Mux,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
DC-Bass Source,0x00400000,0,1,DCBassSource.ax,1.02.0000.0000
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ManyCam Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,MCVEnc.ax,
Gretech Network(SHOUTcast) Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GNF.ax,
ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
Gretech Network(GOM) Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GNF.ax,
Gretech AAC Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP7 Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,vp7dec.ax,7.00.0010.0000
MONOGRAM Musepack Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,mmmpcdmx.ax,0.04.0000.0000
madFlac Source,0x00600000,0,1,madFlac.ax,1.08.0000.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Gretech MP3 Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
MPC - FLV Source (Gabest),0x00600000,0,0,FLVSplitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
GomTV Streamer Network Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GomTVStreamerNF.ax,1.00.0000.0009
Gretech MP4 Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,GSFU.ax,
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPC - MPEG4 Video Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,MP4Splitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
WavPack Audio Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSSplitter.ax,1.01.0000.0323
ffdshow subtitles filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
MPC - Mpeg Splitter (Gabest),0x00600001,1,1,MpegSplitter.ax,1.04.2499.0000
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPC - MPEG4 Video Source,0x00600000,0,0,MP4Splitter.ax,1.03.2116.0000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
WebM VP8 Decoder Filter,0x00600000,1,1,vp8decoder.dll,0.09.0009.0000
Haali Video Sink,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,
AC3File,0x00600000,0,1,ac3file.ax,
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3516.0000
ManyCam Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,MCVEnc.ax,
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VHScreenEncoder,0x00200000,1,1,,
VHScreenDecoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 Codec (2 Logical CPUs),0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VMnc v2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP60® Simple Profile ,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP61® Advanced Profile,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Windows Media Video 9,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 YV12 Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AC-3 ACM Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (Logitech USB Headse,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line In (High Definition Audio ,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microphone (High Definition Aud,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
HD Audio Line in,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio Muxed capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Logitech USB Headset,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Logitech USB Headset,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Video Capture Sources:
ManyCam Video Source,0x00200000,0,2,VideoSrc.dll,
Google Camera Adapter 0,0x00000000,0,0,,
Google Camera Adapter 1,0x00000000,0,0,,

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Logitech USB Headset),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Speakers (Logitech USB Headset),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

---------------
EVR Power Information
---------------
Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 0

ff8ff8 · Post by **ff8ff8** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 04:29

It will certainly get a bit slower, but that shouldn't happen until you really start building up an empire.

Could you post your specs please?

omik · Post by **omik** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 04:39

Specs:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Mobo: ASUS p5B-Deluxe
RAM: 4 Gigs DDR2 RAM
GPU: Nvidia GTX 460
And I have four different SATA harddrives connected.

I have yet to build a single factory, and the game is slow in every sector, even when I am docked. I don't know what could be causing this, especially considering this is the untouched vanilla version of x3tc and albion prelude. I only have 20 ships, all docked somewhere, and one sector trader going.

omik · Post by **omik** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 04:50

Additionally, every other 2 seconds or so while in SETA (6x), the game stutters/freezes for a very brief moment. It is making the game nearly unplayable for me.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 14:45

I would do a Steam verify gamefiles cache. If still issues after that then please post a DxDiag. Instructions for doing so are in the first Announcement on this forum.

Predator02 · Post by **Predator02** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 21:58

I've had issues like this, but save/restarting the game every 3 hours or so seems to help. The game uses more and more ram the longer you play. Doesn't seem to like letting go.

danpaul88 · Post by **danpaul88** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 22:04

Actually that's sensible game design really, so long as it avoids running out of available memory. Caching loaded assets unless the memory is actually required for something else means you don't have to re-load those assets from the hard disk again the next time they are needed, reducing load times. Dumping any cached assets from memory as and when the memory is needed elsewhere is a quick and easy process so long as the engine is designed to manage memory usage properly.

omik · Post by **omik** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 22:59

The problem isn't the game getting slower the longer I play, its getting slower the more the universe "ages". Even if I restart the game, and even my computer, when I begin playing my game again, it is extremely slow. I am 20 hours into the game.

<Exact duplicate of DxDiag in OP removed. Alan Phipps>

omik · Post by **omik** » Sat, 17. Dec 11, 23:00

I've also excluded x3tc.exe and x3ap.exe from ffdshow, and I've tried deleting the Haali files, though I don't know if I deleted them successfully.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Sun, 18. Dec 11, 14:10

To check if you have deleted Haali successfully, run another DxDiag and save the text to your desktop and then look at it yourself. There should now be no mention of Haali anywhere under this section towards the lower half of the DXDiag:

------------------
DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF
.....
.....
Haali Media Splitter,0x00800001,0,1,splitter.ax,
Haali Media Splitter (AR),0x00400000,1,1,splitter.ax,
.....

One other thing to try. See if you can get a more recent brand-named Win7 audio driver (eg RealTek etc) as used by your mobo and onboard sound chipset rather than use that default generic MicroSoft one.

A few players are experiencing fps issues with AP that are not seen in TC. Many other players are not. The cause is unknown as yet but we are looking for common causes in the reports with DxDiags etc. Please be prepared for perhaps further questions about your systems and set-ups in due course.

glenmcd · Post by **glenmcd** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 13:13

omik, you may be running into problems with memory shortage. Try to view "Resource monitor" memory page while you're playing X3 and look at the "hard faults" count. It's given in faults per second (average I think). You can install up to 8GB on your mobo which will run X3 a lot better. I'm using 6GB and X3 runs out of memory given sufficient time with no reloads. Really bad when you're in a DiD game

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 13:32

The 32 bit X3 Engine can only use about 3.5 Gb of your RAM. The other RAM can be used by your video card and other applications and services but 4 Gb is plenty sufficient to play X3 in a satisfactory manner. No this X3AP fps issue is something else restricted to a few players and their systems.

ezra-r · Post by **ezra-r** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 13:56

The progressive slowdown in X3:TC and subsequent versions have been a bug since the first release, mitigated somehow it has never been fully eliminated.

I have also noticed certain slowdown after 20+ hours, nothing too big, but I figure it will get worse as I discover new sectors or I add stations, etc I gues, will check that after a while.

Vicke · Post by **Vicke** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 15:14

I'm experiencing major slowdown here as well. If I start new game and fly in Argon Sector M148 Fraps gives 45-60 fps, but in my 21 hour game (Date 768-05-01 20:51) it gives only 14-18 fps in that same place. (And everywhere else too.)

At this point of the game in any kind of combat situation fps often drops below 10 which makes it unplayable.

I don't have any custom mods etc.

A also found out that save game size has grown a lot. At fresh start it's about 8MB, now it's over 12MB. So far I have only 17 ships and 7 stations.

Post by **CBJ** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 15:18

A member from day one of the forum and your first post. Welcome out into the light.

Anyway, please post your [url=http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq_answer_en.php?answer=610&version=8][b]DX[/b][b]D[/b]iag[/url] report too.

Also, if you could upload that savegame somewhere so that someone could take a look at it, that would be very helpful.

Vicke · Post by **Vicke** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 17:39

Thanks!

Here is the requested savegame file: (link removed)

I get 15 fps right there. It raises a few if I turn around so that there is no stations and stuff in view but doesn't go over 20 fps.

Settings:
Resolution 1680x1050x32 Fullscreen

View Distance: Medium
Texture Quality: Medium
Shader Quality: Medium
Antialias: Off
Anisotropic Texture Filtering: Off

Lowering graphic settings or resolution doesn't give any improvement.

(Dxdiag removed)

Edit 20.12.2011 19:58 GMT+2: Issue causing low fps was found, unnecessary information removed.

glenmcd · Post by **glenmcd** » Mon, 19. Dec 11, 20:21

On your save X09 I get 18 fps normal, 21 if I get away from the gate and stare at an empty sky, and from that position 11fps on SETAx10. Without SETA looking at empty sky, I get no difference by turning off HUD.

Click here to view my DxDiag

I tried some things and eventually managed to get the framerate up to 32. Here's what I did:

1. Fly to Hila's Joy, ejected and got a view of the open sky
2. Destructed every ship of every type in the universe including player ships, with exception of the one that player is in
3. Destructed every station, asteroid, debris and nebula in the universe
4. Deleted all global scripts. This one made the most difference
5. Waited a while to catch the max framerate (av 31, peaked at 32)
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I then loaded up an old TC3.1 save which was 6 days and 4 hours old with all plots completed (the hard way), 271 ships and 4 stations. I went through the above steps with it and following are the results:

Before removing anything: 136fps
Kill all ships except mine: 162fps
Kill my ships as well: 165fps
Kill all stations except mine: 168fps
Kill my stations as well: 201fps
Kill all asteroids/debris/nebula where possible: 202fps
Save and immediately reload: 210fps

Todays Unholy traitor start with around 10 mods, 4.5 hours playtime:
Viewing sky in Hila's Joy: 230fps
Disable HUD: 305fps
Kill all ships except mine: 460fps
Kill all stations: 510fps
Kill all asteroids/debris/nebula where possible: 734fps

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We're not done yet though. Try a few things in the script editor in Albion Prelude and you'll quickly discover that AP is in certain ways faster than TC. Doing the above steps on a fresh "Humble Merchant" start got the same seven hundred and something fps in TC, but considerably more in Albion Prelude:

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All tests done using res 1920 x 1080 32-bit, all gfx settings to max.

Ryudo10 · Post by **Ryudo10** » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 00:04

Hi. I think i'll post here rather than opening another thread, since i have the same problem.

First my Dxdiag

http://paste2.org/p/1830912

I have a savegame with about 24 played hours and the FPS are dropping to 16-18 in non-combat situations and to 2-4 every time i hit something with my lasers.

The whole time the game is running, none of my CPU cores reached 100%, maximum was about 80% at one core, and my GPU was always at about 20% load.

I did a little bit of testing on my own and want to share my results. Maybe it helps someone to figure the error out^^.

I first tried the standard methods of setting all my settings to the highest and to lowest settings and compared the results: No change in FPS even if i set every last thing in my gaphics driver to max and force them on the game.

Then i tried to change the processpriority of X3:AP to real time. That gave me a boost of about 1-2 FPS at the cost of stuttering sound.

Then, while looking at some posted dxdiag files, i noticed that everyone was using a 64 bit Windows 7. So i thought maybe it will help if i use the compatibility mode to change it to XP. Not working

Next thing was to disable sound in game and after that disabling my sound driver. Could have been something in connection with the "Hit" Sound when you hit an enemy with something. Still the same, no change.

Next try was to look at a memorydump to look what files, drivers etc... are loaded when running the game. Here i removed/renamed every loaded dll which was not located in the X3 or windows folder. Didn't work either...
Btw: Here is my x3ap.dmp in a readable format, or at least the human readable part of it

: http://paste2.org/p/1830925

I've now compared it to a dump from X3TC and noticed these changes:
X3TC loads two different versions of comctl32.dll from the winsxs directory while X3AP loads only the older one from these two.

On the X3AP side, it loads these files which are not loaded in X3TC:
GdiPlus.dll from winsxs
mlang.dll from system32
wmadmod.dll from SysWOW64
wmasf.dll from WMASF.dll from system32
wmspdmod.dll from SysWOW64
wmvcore.dll from system32
and of course the new exe.

The problem is now... i don't know what to do with this information^^
Maybe its totally unrelated to the problem an i've only wasted my time ,but i thought i should post it here and maybe someone can find the error or at least a workaround in all that stuff.

So far...
Ryudo10

omik · Post by **omik** » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 00:28

I'm being forced to return to X3TC instead of continuing AP, which I am really disappointed about. X3TC continues to run smoothly for me, and AP has just been frustrating after playing 15-20+ hours. I'm hoping this gets fixed, and glenmcd's post analyzing the game save and comparing the two games is quite telling that it seems to be an issue with AP.

Thanks for the incredible games! I hope the information we're supplying is enough to get this issue fixed so I can enjoy all that AP has to offer

geldonyetich · Post by **geldonyetich** » Tue, 20. Dec 11, 07:32

I suspect the issue I'm having is related. A brand new game is relatively fast, but the longer I play the slower it gets. Changing graphical settings makes very little difference. I really don't have all that big of an empire: only about 60 satellite and 20 ships flying about.

Interesting observation: if you quit, the frame rate increases while the fading out is occurring (before the loading screen). So whatever process is causing the lag, it is immediately stopped on a quit (but unfortunately it is back again on a reload).

glenmcd's post is interesting in that there's only 32 framerate with everything destroyed. If everything is destroyed, it should be higher FPS than a new game (where he gets hundreds of FPS with nothing destroyed).

It would go far for my faith in Egosoft's willingness to resolve customer complaints if they would start with the save game being analyzed by glenmcd and investigate what the cause of all the latency is.

I think perhaps I'll go back to X3TC too, for now. (Either that or suffer through ever-increasing framerate, probably by piloting a Panther Raider and letting my AI do all the shooting for me.) But I hope X3AP's issues are resolved because I do like those new ships and the war scenario!