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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 10:02    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self


Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 10:40    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

NUKLEAR-SLUG wrote:
The-Last-Communist wrote:
I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self


Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean? Rolling Eyes


There's a BIG difference between a mod and a full game. Mods are somewhat protected under copyright law - basically you can use whatever you want except if the owner of material asks you not to. When it comes to releasing a full game (especially for profit) you are expressly forbidden from using anybody else's assets which would include both nebulae and ship models.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 14:53    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

and mods steel sometimes but its for free...
but they are making profit out of thievery.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 15:32    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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NUKLEAR-SLUG wrote:
The-Last-Communist wrote:
I do agree the ships are more obvious
it just got me angry that someone is steeling content from the best space games and converting ships and stuff for theme self


Much like those X3 mods that include Star Wars/Babylon5/etc.. ships you mean? Rolling Eyes


There's a BIG difference between a mod and a full game. Mods are somewhat protected under copyright law - basically you can use whatever you want except if the owner of material asks you not to. When it comes to releasing a full game (especially for profit) you are expressly forbidden from using anybody else's assets which would include both nebulae and ship models.


Mods have no inherent protection under copyright law and you've no special exception to use someone elses material. Most mods exist purely because they're insufficiently popular to show up on the radar of the people that might want to step on them, but there have been plenty of projects over the years that have gained sufficient attention and promptly got stomped into the ground with C&D orders.

The-Last-Communist wrote:
and mods steel sometimes but its for free...
but they are making profit out of thievery.


Robin Hood was still a thief.

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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:02    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

your right , but they stole from egosoft ! that just sick !
but i do get your point


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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Hum for some reason I doubt Egosoft would do anything in this case. When I first joint the forum many years back when X2 was launched, I pointed out that it seems Egosoft used ship model from other media in their games. For example, the Starship trooper series. And many people defend (not sure if the staffs were among those or not) with this reason, quote: "There are only so many starship design that you're bounded to see similarity". Of course I called BS on that, but moved on, apparently now someone else think it's actually a good idea.


For example, look at this Rodger Young ship (Yamato class) from starship trooper, do you think it looks awfully similar to a certain ship in X2? Wink






You can also notice that the yellow ship in this first picture looks pretty similar to how the TL in X2 looks. I wonder if it was the reason why X3 completely scrap the entire models from X2.

Note: I don't accuse anyone anything here. Just want to provide another perspective for all the people getting high in this topic, what came around comes around, heh? Who know, could be just another round of coincidence when big idea clashes Razz

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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I know about that small inspiration but these guys stole , using the same material as egosoft , I did feel that they where coping back in the days , but I think they did it nicely as it fit there universe and where maid from there own 3d objects... in the case of the ``copie game`` well its just stupid steeling


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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Yeah there is a difference between inspiration and actually loading up files from X3TC and editing them before putting them back in your own game.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3. Sep 11, 22:16    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

and in X2 all there dessignes where magic ....
I remember the teladi bat (I think) or was it there m4? in X-tension looking like a old cylon raider lol....


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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 00:23    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Why that does look pretty much exactly like the nebulas I've been working with for some years now...

In fact, considering they apparently also have EVE Online models in there (and probably stuff of a bunch of other franchises) there is little doubt that those are indeed the background from X3(TC). And contrary to apparently popular belief those are not simply pictures taken from some telescopes but handcrafted images. Even if they were pictures and "only" adjusted / overpainted that would not mean that they're not Egosoft's property.

Question is whether they're selling that game for money. I haven't found the page where you buy the game / join the game yet so I don't really know. Anyone found out more about it?


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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 01:00    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

It's a web browser type of game, seems to be free to play.
http://s02.celestus.fr/game.php?Uid=0
There is a contact link, but it's all in french.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 01:51    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Yes it seems to be such.

But hey guys,
Here a French health warning.

Google translate from rules of membership...

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Section 7: Responsibility
Celestus is not responsible for any damage. Every player is willing under any risks involved, these risks are deemed voluntary. It is therefore necessary to recall that the abuse of computer game can cause serious disturbances in different individuals.



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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 11:42    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

lol
im fluent in french so il have a look but later im to lazy


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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 15:13    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

It get's even worse...

Check out the sound-effect at 0:39 in this movie (it's linked on their home page):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTlddlfB8CQ&feature=player_embedded

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PostPosted: Sun, 4. Sep 11, 15:57    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

That sounds... Pretty similar to a jumpgate!


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