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spacehunt
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One of the latest updates
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052909
If there was a line, I think its now miles away for NotW. Absolutly disgusting
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Avis
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 02:09 Post subject: |
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I'm wondering why they (media) keep referring to this as hacking phones, surely it's the voice mail which is stored on the network providers servers not the phone itself?
I must admit I've read / paid very little attention to the story so may have missed something.
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mrbadger
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 08:00 Post subject: |
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| Avis wrote: |
I'm wondering why they (media) keep referring to this as hacking phones, surely it's the voice mail which is stored on the network providers servers not the phone itself?
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It's simpler to say phone hacking
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Shads62
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 09:21 Post subject: |
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As horrible as the hacking thing is for me theres a more worrying issue....
The NotW PAYED the police for infomation???
Since when did the police start selling infomation and into whos pocket did the money go. And since the police are accused of being involved, who is going to do the investigation?
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BeidAmmikon
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 10:30 Post subject: |
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| Shads62 wrote: |
As horrible as the hacking thing is for me theres a more worrying issue....
The NotW PAYED the police for infomation???
Since when did the police start selling infomation and into whos pocket did the money go. And since the police are accused of being involved, who is going to do the investigation? |
You've spoken well. Your concern is all too legitimate.
"[...] a widening phone hacking scandal to denounce reporting tactics by newspapers once seen as too politically influential to challenge."
Oh, the tactics are being denounced! See, we may afford to lose our respect for/trust in the media, such as they are, but we cannot afford it in regard to those paid to protect us, such as they are doing it. That's why the outrage is not directed properly. Instead of discussing at long lengths the tactics employed by tabloids, it would be in society's best interests to get "our" priorities straight, inquiring into the bobbies' doings instead. But you won't see much talk on that, for the reason above.
See who is to face "the Parliament's ire"? Murdoch. What about the... chieftain of the police? Nada.
Move along now. These are people who influence your opinion and people who are protecting you.
Corruption -> mafia. In various degrees. Bearing the same name. It works okay from top to bottom. And when the head is putrid, what do you expect from the body?
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Drainy
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 10:46 Post subject: |
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| CBJ wrote: |
| Well, this interview demonstrates pretty clearly to me where the problem lies. Some journalists and news organisations seem to have totally lost sight of what constitutes acceptable behaviour. |
I saw him being interviewed on Sky yesterday and it was actually hilarious the things he was saying.
I believe they had a police officer (high ranking I assumed, I switched on half way through) as his opposite with the reporter interviewing them both and the officer was saying that the issue was that while everyone has a price there is no situation where an officer should accept, or be able to accept money for a story.
The reporter then tried to justify this for the sake of public interest, the reporter then asked him about the reported instances of officers being given 20-30k for a story.
"Um.... oh well.... erm... " .. about a minute of bumbling .. "err.. well... sorry I'm trying to respond but my solicitor instructed me not to say anything that might incriminate myself so err sorry."
The officer made one final point which was very well made - if a story was in the public interest then an officer shouldn't need to be offered any sum of money to give details on it - the force should be willingly offering the information.
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greypanther
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 11:01 Post subject: |
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@ Beid: all too true I am very much afraid and its nothing at all new. I could tell you some shocking stories about the police; you probably wouldn't believe what drunk policemen talk about!
Basically the human race as a whole is very, very flawed. I sometimes think that it would be better for the universe if we DID NOT expand into space at all!
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Shads62
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EliteM3
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 11:45 Post subject: |
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what?! 
It seems the "News of the world" targeted their family because of schoolgirl...
she is atleast 23 years old 
but, same thing happend to my country because, the police is looking for schoolgirl which is 16 or 17 years old...But suspect said that he killed her, the police is still looking for her...IF...is alive...
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BeidAmmikon
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 12:06 Post subject: |
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Just one more thing. It hurts the soul to see the rage unleashed at Murdoch and his minions, while no word on corrupt police. This one here says that "There are similarities with the Italian mafia. Unchecked, News International's illegal practices would grow". Say what? Where's the mafia? Why is it that the corrupters are at the forefront, while the corrupted are all but forgotten and their sins ready to be forgiven, in their lamb-ish weakness? Oh, there's some words on that, too, presented in a surprised manner - some one hundred words in all, for balance I guess.
Without someone prone to be corrupted, the corrupters have no purpose of being. Start cleaning the house from the top. Otherwise, it's just talk and a charade meant to show us that someone (or anyone) will eventually pay for something that, strangely, got out in the open.
I am not that interested in this case, except for it being one more reason to put a leash on the media in general, and to lash at the police a bit, but it is good to consider when you ponder on who exactly serves you info and security. Here's one more conspiracy for ya: police knowing about it and doing nothing while it was going on - how's that?
Speaking of disclosing private info, I've yet to see the smallest bit of Average Joe outrage at the EU sharing data with the US on airlines' passengers and bank transactions, both one-way processes only. But I guess this one is more complex for the Average Joe to grok, even if "fully" justified by ten-for-a-dime justifiers.
That was all, back to scheduled programming now.
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CBJ
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 12:37 Post subject: |
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| BeidAmmikon wrote: |
| Just one more thing. It hurts the soul to see the rage unleashed at Murdoch and his minions, while no word on corrupt police. |
Except that there is "word on corrupt police". You've linked some articles yourself, and here's another.
So far the reports suggest that individual police officers were bribed for information. No police force can say with 100% certainty that it will never employ an individual who is corrupt or could be corrupted by money, but if that police force acts quickly and appropriately to deal with anyone who falls into that category then that's a sign of a healthy organisation, not an unhealthy one. That's a far cry from the media's insititutional, and indeed industry-wide, acceptance of practices that most "normal" people find utterly sickening.
If it turns out that the payments to individual police officers were known about within the police hierarchy and not dealt with, then sure, there is a very serious case to answer by the police force too. If not then the police force will be judged on how it deals with individual officers who accepted bribes for information. And of course, if evidence emerges to support a suggestion of institutional corruption within the police force with respect to information given to the media then I'll be more than happy to change my opinion on the matter. So far, however, that doesn't seem to be on the cards.
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felter
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 15:08 Post subject: |
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Everyone is pulling their advertisements from the paper, Boots is out, though they will have one in the next papers magazine as it's all ready printed, Npower have pulled out. Asda have stated they have no intentions of advertising with them. The royal British legion have dropped them as their campaigning partner. And the government are being urged to delay the decision on whether they can take over BskyB. Meanwhile Tesco have said, we'll keep advertising with them till all the inquiry's are over, then decide what to do.
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CBJ
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 15:35 Post subject: |
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Another interview involving the same journalist as before. After a fairly run of the mill start on the subject of celebrity privacy, Hugh Grant gives the journalist a thorough kicking on behalf of the general public!
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Shads62
Joined: 29 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jul 11, 15:56 Post subject: |
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Is it reasnoable of the head of the company to say they didn't know this was going on. It isnt elsewhere in company law. I work for a chemical company and if there is an environmental incident caused by our bad practices the the MD would end up in court not the guy who made the mistake. And he wouldn't be allowed to use ignorence of the particular practice as a defence
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