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General_Failure
Joined: 25 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Thu, 17. May 12, 21:15 Post subject: |
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So, I have a few orbital weapons platforms I threw a few of these in, however, is there -any- other mod that can help me automate them in shipping the e-cells to a base? Cause I'm not seeing anything really. And with freight drones you have to do it manually, and heck at that point it's quicker just to beam wares between ships then have them dock.
Other than that, I like it, just wish I could put it to better use! Unless I'm just missing something here.
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed, 6. Jun 12, 17:44 Post subject: |
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Hello
At first i want sorry for my bad english. I have problem with script. I use the XRM and few other scripts compatible with mod. I have lastest ware manager but i dont have energy cell generator on peoduct list in docks. In AL consol I do not have the switch that turns script on. I instaled script manual and with Plugin Manager. What I have to do the script started to work
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Logain Abler
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 2195 on topic
Location: Norwich, UK
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| Posted: Wed, 6. Jun 12, 21:06 Post subject: |
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| Szynszyl wrote: |
Hello
At first i want sorry for my bad english. I have problem with script. I use the XRM and few other scripts compatible with mod. I have lastest ware manager but i dont have energy cell generator on peoduct list in docks. In AL consol I do not have the switch that turns script on. I instaled script manual and with Plugin Manager. What I have to do the script started to work |
If you can't turn it on via the AL Plugin option then it won't work, you must have some files missing.
There should be two file for the AL Plugin called something like:
al.LI.CSecG.event
al.plugin.LI.CSecG.register
LA
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DrBullwinkle
Joined: 17 Dec 2011
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Location: Boston, USA
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed, 6. Jun 12, 22:19 Post subject: |
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If you can't turn it on via the AL Plugin option then it won't work, you must have some files missing.
There should be two file for the AL Plugin called something like:
al.LI.CSecG.event
al.plugin.LI.CSecG.register
LA |
Yes i dont have this filses, but .spk does not have these files. I extract spk file with spk explorer made by cycrow.
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IIRC, the required ware for CSecG is bad. I never looked closely at exactly what was wrong with it... I just changed the required ware to something standard, and CSecG worked after that. |
Sorry but i not understand, my english is too bad. What is IIR??
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DrBullwinkle
Joined: 17 Dec 2011
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Location: Boston, USA
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| Posted: Wed, 6. Jun 12, 23:10 Post subject: |
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| Logain Abler wrote: |
There should be two file for the AL Plugin called something like:
al.LI.CSecG.event
al.plugin.LI.CSecG.register |
Unfortunately, the author has given some bad information here. CSecG Version 2 is not an Artificial Life Plugin, so there are no al.* files.
In my experience, this is the best version of CSecG, but it does require fixing the required ware. I am sure that Logain Abler will soon fix the installation files.
Sorry... IIRC = "If I Recall Correctly". It is not so much English as it is an Internet abbreviation.
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jun 12, 10:39 Post subject: |
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So as I understand it, the current file .spk is not valid and hence my problem? And for now I can not fix it?
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DrBullwinkle
Joined: 17 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jun 12, 14:53 Post subject: |
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| Szynszyl wrote: |
| So as I understand it, the current file .spk is not valid and hence my problem? |
Yes.
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| And for now I can not fix it? |
If you are familiar with the script editor, then you can change the required ware in two places:
Setup.LI.CSecG:
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set script command upgrade: command=$cmd1 upgrade={?}
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Plugin.LI.CSecG.Task:
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$check = [THIS]->get true amount of ware {?} in cargo bay
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Change the ware to something standard, such as Navigation Command Software Mk1, or maybe Special Command Software. The ware doesn't matter, as long as it is something that your installation recognizes.
Of course, the ship running CSecG must have the same ware installed.
(While you are changing things, the line in .Task should really be "get amount of ware..." *without* the "true". Some ships have wares built-in. The "true" will *not* work for those ships. I know... it seems backwards.)
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu, 7. Jun 12, 23:31 Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, I'm lousy at programming, maybe someone could convert these files to me?
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DrBullwinkle
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Logain Abler
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Norwich, UK
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| Posted: Fri, 8. Jun 12, 23:30 Post subject: |
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| DrBullwinkle wrote: |
I would be happy to post my fixed copy, but I keep thinking (hoping) that Logain Abler will show up any minute with an official fix.
@Logain Abler: If you are busy, do you want me to post a fix? At least temporarily? |
That would be great if you have one. I do need to sort this one out, the CSecG ware installed fine for me when it was wrote the script., so not sure what went wrong. If I get chance this weekend I'll try and figure it out.
Looks like I can't remember much about this one, I thought it was an AL plugin as it installed on NPC ships.... maybe that was work in progress.
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DrBullwinkle
Joined: 17 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sat, 9. Jun 12, 00:48 Post subject: |
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OK, here you go, Szynszyl.
I am sure that LA will improve this when he gets a chance, but this version should be functional:
CSecG v2.04 (fix for broken ware)
| Logain Abler wrote: |
| the CSecG ware installed fine for me when I wrote the script., so not sure what went wrong. |
Unfortunately, testing custom wares on your own game is not a sufficient test. As far as I can tell, there does not seem to be a reliable way to add custom wares to the game. Your v2.0 .spk *should* work. And it might even work *sometimes*. But the past several pages of this thread is evidence that it does not *always* work.
I changed the requirement to Navigation Command Software Mk1. That is not as much fun as a custom ware, but it works reliably, which the custom ware does not.
I also changed the test for the ware. The v2.0 tests "get true amount of ware" which is wrong. It should be "get amount of ware" (without the "true"). The "true amount" skips ships that have the ware built in. It is backwards from what seems logical.
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EDIT: My theory is that bad installations and/or incorrect versions of EMP mess up some installations and some scripts that use custom wares.
EMP is lightly documented, and the chain of versions (including current version) is not documented at all. The various links and out-of-date instructions to use this version or that are a jumbled mess. AFAIK, the way in which the Plugin Manager supports EMP is not documented at all.
The result is that a player, who reads and follows instructions, is likely to have multiple versions of EMP installed simultaneously. It appears that EMP changed at some point in its history, resulting in some scripts with old EMP wares that do not work. Also, there seems to be at least one bug in EMP itself (the Advanced Thruster Control requires a nearly-impossible notoriety of 1,000,000 with the Boron).
The net result is that you cannot predict the state of a player's EMP installation; thereby making custom wares difficult or impossible to install reliably.
MARS works reliably because the MARS ware exists in the vanilla TWareT. EMP is not required.
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You did make a version 3 beta of CSecG... but it does some bizarro* stuff (*technical term). Version 2 worked best for me, after fixing the ware.
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat, 9. Jun 12, 10:02 Post subject: |
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Thx guys i test a new files and i write what is a effect.
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Logain Abler
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Szynszyl
Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat, 9. Jun 12, 11:00 Post subject: |
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The script works great, it is true the game crashes to me but it's probably already a problem for me.
One more time great thanks guys 
Unfortunly a fixed script crash my game :/
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