[SCR] Ring of Fire - Stealth Lasertowers (v2.31 - 29.11.09)

[Retiredman]

Only if you and Pelador would bang heads. You could come up with the Ring deployed from OSS by drones. I believe each of Pelador drones carries 6 towers and a Nav Sat.. Maybe a new version of the turrent drones - mark3. Remove the nav sat, add the stealth and deploy.

Add grouping so if you deploy 60 drones to a location, then you get the 360 lasertowers in the ring.
If you used 1 drone then you get a ring of 6 Lasertowers.

[FreudianSlip172]

I'm having a little difficulty convincing my new RoF LT's to decloak. I've got 50 of them set around a pretty high-traffic Paranid gate, and they are indeed set to "foe" globally. I've set the range to 12,000 m.

If I "set decloak" and force them to be visible, then they do engage as designed. But when I turn "set cloak" back on, they simply aren't engaging passing targets.

Am I doing something incorrectly? I'm enjoying the LT's even if they don't become invisible, though, fun script regardless.

[Gazz]

I think they always use the current FF setting of the Playership. I didn't want potentially hundreds of invisible LT constantly updating their FF settings to default. (which is not a simple instruction with them not being owned by the player at the time)

[rbettele]

[Superbun270]

[rbettele]

i have dude - foe for pirates and same in global, but like I say. I deploy cloaked and it ignores pirates, reload same save and deploy UNcloaked and it shoots em with no other changes !?

[ragamer]

I have the same issues with this script... But you need to remember that this was created for Reunion, and had to deal with some anoyances Reunion had.

I have tweaked it for TC and in reallity it's very simple to get a functional RoF that takes advantages of some of the critical changes on the GUI TC brang.

Here goes the step by step instructions on how to "hack" the current version (231) to get some better control on the Turrets while waiting to Gazz to have time to revise this nice script:

- Use the Script Editor and open the script "plugin.ring.of.fire.stealth"

- Comment the following lines:

[Shuraalex]

*ragamer

Unfortunatly your help didnt do anything for me

When i was in the system i did all the instructions and "Hacked" it and it started working perfectly fine, i was very happy for a moment, later in the game couple of hours ago i was persuited by a bunch of pirates so i decided to fly to my nearby sectors protected by the ring of fire under stealth, since i thought that it was working i didnt give it a second thought..

unfortunatly opon arriaval and waiting for the lasers to appear the pirates had enough time to shoot me down and my astronaut.. ( I still had hope that the lasers start appearing, they did not )

After that i loaded to a pervious save thinking that i somehow misplaced the lasers and they were in a diffrent place, i uncloaked all lasers and they were IN Fact at that gate where i died


Also i still dont have them in my property list
Oh and as someone mentioned in the previous reply that the Lasertowers got scattered, well it happend to me after i decloaked them and jumped in with my Colossus in the sector. Maybe that helps fixing the problem
the lasers were at 1800 m radius

Edit:

Also instead of commenting on the 0198 line i simply changed the "$AltRace = Goner ..." to Player
So it should techincally be in my Property List, although it isnt, even after i Decloak and Cloak the Lasers again.. sad

Anyway.. It seems that the script doesnt want to attack the Pirates when cloaked, here are some test screens i did to show at what attributes the script malfunctions :

Here is when i added a Pirate Caravel right infront of the Cloaked Turrets
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/Shuraalex/x3screen00025.jpg

Here is when i added a Xenon Ship near the Pirate one, as you can see the Turrets started decloaking and destroyed both ships in matter of seconds
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/Shuraalex/x3screen00027.jpg

Here's a small suggestion of sorts, atleast for me
Can anyone or the author edit the scrip slightly so that the pirates ( Only pirates ) would be hostile no matter what ( while cloaked )
So that the turrets uncloak when they see pirates like they do with Xenon

And send the new version to me via a Private Message or upload it here in this topic, although i think that would requier author permission..

[Shuraalex]

1.Bumping the thread for any scripters to help me out
2.

I did some digging around the script edditor (having very poor knowledge of it,but none the less)
And it seems that the script works fine with setting Pirates as Hostiles

hmm or atleast when i tried to change

[Gazz]

The code changes in the two JPGs (apparently deleted now?) appear to be gibberish.
Either that or it's way beyond me.

What you should do instead is run the $hostiles check normally, then if it returns null,
check for a pirate ship with [find.force.use.pos] as the only flag.

Sometimes pirates are bugged and don't appear properly hostile. It's an X3 thing where trying to find them as "normal" hostiles can fail.

[MarioBr0]

hiay's,

i used this script on x3r and on x3tc. and i always concidered it (for my own game) as one of the most inportant non-egosoft-scripts. oh i just love it...

the only problem i experienced with it was that i would loose track of what gates i DID put a ring on and what gates i did NOT YET put a ring on...

BUT that would be one of my smallest concerns..., now with the new Xtended-terranconflict release of a vew weeks ago, i cannot propperly defend my sectors anymore at all. XTC-developers say they changed so much of the egosoft gamefiles that all existing scripts are by default not compatible anymore.

so to get to my question, dear GAZZ... do you think there would be any chance there might one day be released a XTC-compatible version of this one? i saw you say you need attending to other projects, but then that was in 2006... and who knows maybe your as big XTC-fan as i am and might see value in making it compatible. one of my wettest dream would forfill ^^

The only other option i see is to ask XTC-developers to introduce ring.of.fire into the XTC-mod (witch i will do in a vew minutes) but i think they will endup telling me they are to busy themselves... and besides i am not sure if they can just do that... probbably you would have to allow them to adopt it or other 'legal'-issues. but ill ask anyway, asking doesnt hurt they say.

One more important thing, for if you 'actually would' make a XTC-ring.of.fire script, the XTC 1.0 (+1.1 bugfix) releases ARE prereleased versions of the mod, featuring only some of the XTC-features. The complete mod is still underconstruction and will be released as XTC 2.0... they also say stuff like save-games of XTC 1.1 wil not be compatible (due to mayor changes i guess). so i guess IF you would make a XTC compatible version of your script it would probbably make sence not to do so before XTC 2.0 will be released.

hmm yea. with regards

Mario

[Gazz]

[Katorone]

I'm using RoF on XTC... Works like a charm.

Edit:
Placement works like a charm... But the LT's don't have shields.

[Katorone]

For those with XTC. Seems XTC doesn't (yet?) put shields on LT's.

Adding this line will allow the RoF to use shielded LT's:

= $laser install 1 unit of 125 MJ Shield
at line 258 of plugin.ring.of.fire (after the LT is created, and before the rudder opt. is added)

[MarioBr0]

yeah its working indeed. awesome.
just took me vew days to produce enough towers for my first ring.


i dont get shield on it either so ill try adding it like you sayed, see if it works.
but i have one more little issue, since the ring does not automatically decloak and engage paranid vehicle's passing the gate. i can decloak manually, they start attacking the ships then but if i dont do it manually, they just watch paranids fly by and nothing.

i set scanner range to 20 km (set scan 20000) cause i figured the scan should trigger the decloak and maybe it just needs some longer, but no reaction on the enemy-ships passing the gate. also paraanids ARE set to foe on global commands, and i sended the setting a couple of times to 'all reachable propperty'. no effect.
i have not seen any xenon or kaahg (also both enemy) at the ring yet
so dont know if they would decloak at all on enemy contact or if its a paranid-related-issue.

any suggestion on what i should try?



EDIT----------------------

i remember in TC3.0 (without xtended mod) the towers would decloak and kill all terrans as soon as i set them to foe. So i declared war on all races to see what happens but the rings are not decloaking.
and as i was in the middle of building my 2nd ring, a paranid dropped in the sector, the first towers were already cloaked and he got killed by the towers wich i just deployed and did not have enough time to cloak yet.

the trick with the shields is working b.t.w. ^^ THX
and katorone, are you using the towers cloaked or uncloaked? do you not have the same problem?