Tweeking exisiting commands

[moggy2]

I'm not thinking big changes or rewrites here, just little details I'd change to some of the commands that come with the game.

One thing that anoys me is the stcok command Attack.... Once the target has been destroyed the ship stops. The command has finished and the autopilot deactivates This is fine for an NPC ship who'll return to their default action, but for a player ship the default action is none. This leaves player ships vulnerable to other hostiles, and lets face it how often do you see just one hostile ship?
A simple tweek to the !ship.cmd.attack.pl would fix this. Add a second line that calls !ship.cmd.killenemies so that after the initial target is killed it switches to attack all enemies.

Another thing that I've noticed people complain about is the sell fo best price command. The ship always returns home before looking for somewhere new to sell even if the ship still has a full cargobay of stock. This is probably more difficult to cure, but it's my impression that the equivalent buying command was fixed for this problem during X2 developement, so why wasn't this command fixed?

I might get round to fixing these one of these days.

Anyone else got any little tweeks they'd like to see the the original commands?

[fud]

How about a group "dock at..." command, or group "return home".


The ACC scripts do this, somewhat. You issue the command on the carrier to return all ships belonging to it.


What I found annoying is, you can't order a group of ships to dock in one place. You have to command each ship individually, as opposed to "broadcast" then "return home/dock at..." for a group of ships.

That's my idea.

[Red Spot]

dont think this will make much diff. for you .. but at least I've said it ..

with FC (Fleet Command) I'll be completelly remaking about *all* scripts within the scripts-folder .. (I'm not really sure how and if it will be released as a standalone-package but I'll be fixing plenty of left-over bugs/errors made by ES)


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[Cycrow]

im been rewriting them all for Firelance as well, and i've found loads of mistakes in them

[Serial Kicked]

lol i'm not the only one with this idea in mind. The tweak on the attack.pl is a good idea. I've no special request however, i'll be fine on my own

Yeah, the amount of errors in the default scripts is quite impressive. That's why i ended up in writting my own version of many of those scripts for Y.A. or ACC.

[Red Spot]

could be fun ... making a list of scripters and the bugs they've found ..

maybe if we present it like that .. ES cant go around it (not that it matters .. as it seems ... )



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[apricotslice]

[moggy2]

@Cycrow, Redspot and Serial Kicked

I'd like to see what work you've done on fixing up the default scripts.
It might be interesting to work together to create a package to replace the default scripts.
Serial Kicked, you use this other bug tracking system don't you? Is it possible for anyone to upload files to the issues? Could we create a project and open issues for each script, then each upload our fixed version of the scripts to the issues?

back to the topic. I wan't actually planning on looking for bugs. I just wanted to see if the designed behavior could be improved. Anyway, a couple of other ideas.

• The !move.movetosector might be more usefull if it used the jumpdrive if a jumpdrive was installed, Navigation Software Mk1 was installed, and there was enough energy. This would add an extra dimention to the equiping of ships, if they now made use of items normally reserved for player only use.
  I wouldn't make it try to buy energy. That would make it too complicated, and to be honest I believe that should be left to the other scripts.
  
  
• If the above modification is made it opens up the possibility for the standard trade commands to use the jumpdrive. These scripts only need a small modification to automatically load up with energy from the factory's supply when they dock there.
  

iirc there has been some reluctance from egosoft in the past on this idea, for fear of adversley effecting the economy, or giving the player too much power. Any comments on that anyone?

[Cycrow]

i've mainly been rewriting alot of the main scripts for use with firelance rather than just fixing the problems.

althou one of the ones i can remember is the spacefly hunter job script, theres an error in the find asteroid command

[apricotslice]

[Red Spot]

[Cycrow]

[apricotslice]

Please excuse me for saying this BUT.......

A lot of what I'm reading here seems to be putting the agrandisement of the mod ahead of perfecting the actual game. Ego instead of helping.

The mod will only ever appeal to a percentage of the players.

Those who dont use mods, are therefore left out in the cold by those who only script for mods. There is a great deal of good stuff in mods that the average player should have in the game, but someone "owns it" and wont allow general distribution, or considers the time taken out to generally provide something that works better, a waste of their time.

The highest wellbeing of the game itself is to correct and improve upon the existing scripts that have bugs and issues and submit them to Egosoft for signing as a matter of urgency. This benefits EVERYONE, not just the percentage who use mods.

And since what is modded gets out anyway, why restrict what you cannot control ? Why complain about others doing the same thing ? Why not just get a script completed and release it first, and have everyone else who uses it give an acknologement to the author.

Are we writing mods and scripts for our own glory, or are we dedicated to making the game better ? Sometimes I wonder.

If everyone who has contributed to this thread put their personal stuff aside and dedicated themselves as a group to the betterment of the game for the normal vanilla game player, the game would be immeasurably improved FOR ALL PLAYERS.

Hear endeth the sermon. Sorry for any buised egos or hurt feelings.

[Cycrow]

well alot of the stuff im changing for firelance wouldn't actually work in a standard game, as it needs some of the stuff that has been added to the mod.

most of the scripts are designed specifically for it.

however when i do come across any problems that i fix that would work in the standard game then i will post it

[Red Spot]