Please test this savegame for freezing.

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Does this save game freeze for you?

It DOES freeze
22
79%
Did NOT freeze
6
21%
 
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Please test this savegame for freezing.

Post by acrh2 »

I am posting the poll in this forum and not the Tech Support forum because my intent is to find out how common the freezes are among the general public, and not just among those that already have problems.

Here's a savegame which freezes my game (repeating sound freeze) consistently after about 30-50 sec w/o the need for any input from the user. This savegame is from fairly far into the game with the plot finished and with a number of player-owned stations and ships, including capital ships (probably close to 2 billion credits in assets and cash). Feel free to experiment with it, if it doesn't freeze for you. If there are requests, I can also post a non-freezing savegame from 35 min before this one.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/X22.sav

To install and test:
1) Right click on the link above and choose "Save Target as". Pick your favorite directory or the default X3 savegame directory "C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\Egosoft\X3\save" or simply "My Documents\Egosoft\X3\save" folder.
2) If you chose the default savegame directory, select overwrite, and it will overwrite the last of three automatic savegames - #22. Otherwise, copy the savegame to the directory shown above.
3) Start X3 and load the last savegame on the list (farthest right savegame #22).
4) Wait 20-30 sec or enable SETA. The game will either freeze before 17:18 on the in-game timer, or it will not.
5) If the game does freeze, resetting the computer would be one way to get out of it (but make sure that there's no harrdive activity at the moment of reset, I will not take the responsibility of someone's harddrive data loss due to a reset while some data is being written to the harddrive).

Please come back here and answer the poll question after you are done testing.

Thanks.

P.S. Here's the savegame which shouldn't freeze.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/X21.sav
Last edited by acrh2 on Mon, 12. Dec 05, 20:26, edited 3 times in total.
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Post by Cycrow »

doesn't even work on mine, just crashes everytime while its loading
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Post by The Rogue Trader »

Is it a scripted or unscripted game ?
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Post by banjaxo »

Will give it a try when I'm home from work and let u know.

I've had a few of the "sound loop" crashes myself. Are you using a soundcard? Just had a tip from another forum user that a soundcard gives a good fps boost, I'm using onboard sound and I'm wondering if our problems may be related to this in some way?
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Post by acrh2 »

Cycrow: I guess you can mark it as freeze, if it doesn't even load for you.

Capt. Scarlet: There are scripts in the game, but I've tested this extensively - even when all scripts are deleted, the game will load and freeze after a short while.

banjaxo: my soundcard is Audigy 2 ZS.
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Post by Jams79 »

Completely freezes on my system, but lasts over a minute at least
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Post by acrh2 »

Jams79 wrote:Completely freezes on my system, but lasts over a minute at least
Mark here as freeze then please.

Perhaps my estimate of 15-20 sec is incorrect. It should be in about ~5-10 sec in SETA x10, now that I think about it.
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Post by acrh2 »

At this point, 88 views and 3 votes.

Please test and vote.

Thank you.
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Post by DrunkenPirate »

Crash on load.
Voting as "freeze"
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Post by Scoob »

Hi acrh2,

Your game loads just fine (how long have you been playing?? :o ) it runs for about 30 seconds on my system before locking up entirely - I was checking out the local sector map at the time. Tried it a second time, just letting the game run, & it froze once more after around 30 seconds.

While I've been playing my own game a fraction of the time you have (77-17:16 wow!) it's still a fairly mature game at 15-02:18 & I've not experienced this problem.

Voted as Freeze.

HTH,

Scoob.
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Post by DanishEagle »

Freeze after about 30 sec. Vote casted.
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Post by fchopin »

I also get a freeze so i will report this.
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Post by acrh2 »

fchopin wrote:I also get a freeze so i will report this.
I thought you weren't getting any freezes with this savegame :)
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Post by banjaxo »

OK I just tried it and... Yup, froze inside 30 seconds.

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Post by acrh2 »

Here's the savegame for those who wish to check out what it's like far into the game progress with capital ships and what not:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/X21.sav
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Post by XenonBuster »

froze after 10-15 secs..but I did notice that the save was nearly 8 mb in size while all mine are between 5 and 6 mb
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Post by fchopin »

acrh2 wrote:
fchopin wrote:I also get a freeze so i will report this.
I thought you weren't getting any freezes with this savegame :)
I am now, what did you change?
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Post by acrh2 »

fchopin wrote:
acrh2 wrote:
fchopin wrote:I also get a freeze so i will report this.
I thought you weren't getting any freezes with this savegame :)
I am now, what did you change?
This is just a copy of the same one, renamed from x00 to x22.
That's the only change, the renaming.
I did a file compare just to be sure.
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Post by acrh2 »

More tests, pretty please.

Thanks.
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Post by acrh2 »

400 views, 16 votes.
Come on, one more push!
:)
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