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Forum maintenance is over - see here for changes

Post by BurnIt! »

Finally the crash-reboot-crash-reboot phase of the past hours is over and the server is running quick and stable again.

Aside from fixing the problems I put in some more tweaks to make the forum faster and more reliable.

Here's the list of changes that you can see:
  • The memberlist is gone - not very useful with over 90000 members, slowed the forum down when used and spammers could easily retrieve email addresses from it - if you need to know about the top posters refer to the statistics page instead.
  • Since so many people like the feature in the game I decided to introduce the "modified" tag here as well. Posts that show the "edited by" footnote now also show a "modified" watermark in the upper right corner.
  • Posting, editing and deleting messages should now be noticably faster, this is due to a change in the search engine - I'll explain that below.
(Note that there are a also few dozen other tweaks, mainly involving the optimisation of database queries, that you cannot see - so it's not like I spent all the weekend with that modified feature! ;) )

The Search Engine: good news - I will now not have to de-activate it if the server load stays like it is at the moment.

The big change first: posts that are created will not be indexed immediately anymore but all posts that have been created/edited/deleted in a day are indexed together at night when the forum is not very busy. This means it can take up to 24 hours until your post can be found with the Search.

I had to face accusations that we would be deleting specific posts from the search tables so they cannot be found (sorry, but this is ridiculous!).

Anyway, I will now explain how our search operates so you can see for yourselves that there is no covering-up being done.

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You may have been wondering why some of your searches don't bring back any results. The answer may not be what you wanted to hear, but here it is: it isn't a bug, it is a feature.

So, this is probably a good time to explain the mysteries of the search function.

There are a number of search terms which occur very frequently and, when someone searches for these search terms it puts a heavy load on the database. For this reason there is an automatic limiter, which kicks in and ignores any search term which occurs more than a certain number of times.

The limiter is currently set to 20000, which automatically excludes the following 3 search terms.

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argon (22608)
xenon (24725)
khaak (31419)
Searching for these terms will bring back no results.

Further limitations include a minimum search term length of 4 characters and a maximum of 20. In addition, there is a lengthy list of "stopwords", that is to say words that will not be included in the search because they are too common. If you are really curious, you can have a look at the list here.

Obviously the standard phpBB filters also apply, so BBCode tags, text in quotes, links, HTML tags, and so on will all be ignored. Additionally, a further filter exists which filters out words with 4 or more letters in a row that are the same. So "hmmmmm" and "spaaaaaam" would not be included in the search.

And there's more. ;)

Messages in the Off-Topic forum are not indexed.

Threads whose title consists only of a single word (the favourite is "Help", which of course doesn't say much about what is in the thread) will not be indexed either. Answers in these threads will be indexed, as long as their title doesn't also consist of just a single word.

Numbers won't be included in the search.

A new restriction is that only the first 300 words of a message will be indexed. Really long posts put a heavy load on the search function every time they are posted, edited or deleted.


So, clear as mud?
Of course my job as Site Admin would be boring if there wasn't anything more so there's even more optimisations to bo done to website and forum.
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Post by esd »

Cheers BurnIt! :)
BurnIt! wrote:[*]Since so many people like the feature in the game I decided to introduce the "modified" tag here as well. Posts that show the "edited by" footnote now also show a "modified" watermark in the upper right corner.
Evil, just evil. :lol:

Question is, when will someone work out how to mod it out? :wink:
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Post by Greyhawk1 »

Cool! Not sure about the 'modified' tag though...

[EDIT] - Totally off topic but does anyone know exactly what font X2 uses in the menus in game? Since this is BurnIt's thread he may know...
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Post by Logaan »

Smart :thumb_up:, since I created my own Forum some while back, I know all about the load it puts on a server.

The search function is always the worst :headbang:
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Post by Sadan01 »

I'm interested to test this "modified" tag as I love it so much in the game... :P
I'll come back and edit this in a moment....

EDIT: Just want to add my thanks to you BurnIt! .. Most of your work is behind the scenes where a lot of us wouldn't have the slightest clue that you are in fact busy :P

Did I get my modified tag???? :?:
Guess what? I've named a boil on my arse after you. It too bothers me everytime I sit down.

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Post by frymaster »

you only get the "modified" tag if you qualify for a "last edited by:" footer as well

basically I think you get about 15* minute's grace before editing your post counts as being edited - it gives you a chance to correct typos etc.

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BurnIt! wrote:The limiter is currently set to 20000, which automatically excludes the following 3 search terms.
So if we make a post with any word posted 20,000 times in one post, now one can search for it? :twisted:
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Post by BurnIt! »

No - a word will only be indexed once per post.
So to do that you'd have to make 20000 posts with the same word(s) .
Do that and you will never post here again - far before you reach 1000 identical posts, I promise! :twisted:


The "edited by" footer only appears if it is yourself that edits the post and if your post is not the last one in the thread. So if I edit my post now the footer won't be added as there's no reply yet.
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Post by Z0diac »

Nice to see a forum in which the search function is actually used too much. In most fora I visit there are more replies starting with "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, YOU F*CKING N00B!!!11" than there are helpful ones...

I have to say I missed the forum when it went down.
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Post by Brent Rivienne »

Ah good, nice to see you moved the modified tag to be -behind- the text now, it was quite irritating when it was obscuring a chunk of post. :)
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There you go, modified logo moved, problems when selecting text are gone.
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esd wrote:Question is, when will someone work out how to mod it out? :wink:
I near enough have ;)

Is it just me or do one of the modified tags match the colour of one of the rows?

http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/templat ... s.row2.gif
Seems to match the row colour in some of my posts... or is at least so difficult to see on a CRT that it may as well be.

http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/templat ... s.row1.gif
Seems to work OK on the other rows though.

I could have sworn that these boards alternated between dark green and black, I can't really tell on this monitor... it's far clearer back on my TFT.

Anyway... this would mean the modified tag is invisible every other post... probably needs fixing if so.

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Now that someone has posted... observe.

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BurnIt! wrote: You may have been wondering why some of your searches don't bring back any results. The answer may not be what you wanted to hear, but here it is: it isn't a bug, it is a feature.
If you want to refer to it as a feature, I suggest you do it properly, so a search for 'argon' returns something like:

Nothing to search for. The word "argon" is very common and was excluded from your search.

...as opposed to the search engine playing stupid and giving the message:

No topics or posts met your search criteria

Until this is corrected, I will regard it a bug.
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Post by esd »

Brent Rivienne wrote:
esd wrote:Question is, when will someone work out how to mod it out? :wink:
I near enough have ;)

Is it just me or do one of the modified tags match the colour of one of the rows?

http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/templat ... s.row2.gif
Seems to match the row colour in some of my posts... or is at least so difficult to see on a CRT that it may as well be.

http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/templat ... s.row1.gif
Seems to work OK on the other rows though.

I could have sworn that these boards alternated between dark green and black, I can't really tell on this monitor... it's far clearer back on my TFT.

Anyway... this would mean the modified tag is invisible every other post... probably needs fixing if so.
:lol:
Took a bit longer for you to mod it out than the real modded tag took, but nice one :D
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