[Mod] Aggressive AI 2.5 (2019.01.18) - Support Ended.

[7ate9tin11s]

Their default orders are to 'escort ship' but even the lead ship or a solo ship with no wing mates will randomly pick new targets. IT's not 'stuck' it's more like they have minds of their own, and will slowly fill their order queue with targets to attack. Usually when I tell a ship to 'attack' something, it will gradually decide to add every single red object to it's order queue.

And the behavior went away when I completely removed all of this mods files, so it's not vanilla intended behavior. (Escort ships get 'defend position' orders from their leaders when I give the wing attack orders. Which is still a stupid behavior and I wish it would default to making the entire wing attack the indicated target, but I've given up and just disband wings when I want focus fire and just tell the loose group of ships to attack the target when I want that behavior.)

Very interesting. Does it still do this with just the core module enabled and all the others disabled? I want to hunt down which module is causing this and if it is not the core it becomes much easier to find.

Oh, think I found it. Core attack orders were set to allow for preferential targeting on player ships as well as NPC ships by default:

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  <!-- 2.11 even playing field, player ships now actively look at other targets too -->
  <replace sel="//aiscript/order/params/param[@name='allowothertargets']/@default">true</replace>

Will split that our to the smart player targeting so it can be properly controlled by the player (I like my ships to have more a mind of their own...lazy commander here ).

Have to do testing then I will be able to release.

[verdeboy2k]

At least I wasn't going insane. I just wish there were 'wing' commands. Like 'wing attack' that would override the default ****** wing behavior and force them to work more like a single 'ship' that's made up of smaller parts, like in previous X games. I guess what I'm saying is I wish that wings would treat direct orders as overrides and do them first before resuming whatever they were doing.

[7ate9tin11s]

At least I wasn't going insane. I just wish there were 'wing' commands. Like 'wing attack' that would override the default ****** wing behavior and force them to work more like a single 'ship' that's made up of smaller parts, like in previous X games. I guess what I'm saying is I wish that wings would treat direct orders as overrides and do them first before resuming whatever they were doing.

Uploaded a new version. Note that some fixes will take effect the next combat (choosing their own target right away), while others may require new ships entirely (To stop using smart targeting completely if it is still enabled for NPCs).

Actually, I should make a fix module and upload it for the second situation...done. Two releases in a day

[Sirilius]

Is this working with the 1.6 beta patch or are you waiting for the release first?

[o-papaya-o]

Would it be possible to have a missile replenishment command.

[Wiesel No1]

hello,

finally I bought an argon colossus attacker but somehow the AI seems not correctly working when my XL ship vs other XL ships battle.
Something similar happens when I flu to faulty logic 1 and wanted to attack/destroy the defense base.

1) XL vs XL: My turrets attack correct. But all opponent XL doesnt really use their weapons against me.
I scanned them and their command is attacking my colossus.
Strange think when I switch in my docked Gorgo destroyer than the AI changes to attack this ship and now using the turrets of the opponent XL.

2) When I am near to the defense station my ship does not really use the turrets. when drones are deployed the weapons attack. but when crushed they mostly stop.
When I now use Strg+D and let the AI take over my Colossus and give command attack the station the ship turrets start attacking. As ship positioning is bad I cant really use this.
I tried al modi for turrets.

does anybody has an idea what could be the challenge with 1) or 2)?

v2.5 is used, teste also without mod and lower than v2.5
game is at v1.5.

best regards
Eric

[7ate9tin11s]

Is this working with the 1.6 beta patch or are you waiting for the release first?

Waiting for release. Egosoft is making changes to the combat scripts which prevent my changes from taking effect and there is no reason to update mine since every change they make would break my scripts again.

[reanor]

Found a bug. With this mod in game, if I select multiple ships (didn't try with one) and give them command to Remove all orders, there is always one ship that is teleported to the very edge of the hexagon, expanding it to the max. So not just teleported to the edge, but expands the hexagon all the way it can be expanded.

There are no teleportation or jump commands in this mod that could possibly cause this behavior. Nor does it affect the remove all orders command or its effects in any way. What version are you running and what mods do you have enabled?

I forgot to mention that this bug was related to the Instant Docking optional module that is provided as an optional download for Aggressive AI mod. This optional module fixes the issue, where subordinate ships get stuck on docking/undocking capital ships, by teleporting them TO and FROM the landing pads. I've adjusted the time it takes for ships to teleport from the dock and it seems to have fixed the issue. It was MIN 1 second, I adjusted to MIN 3 seconds, so the command has a few more seconds to queue up, before executing.

[reanor]

Also I've noticed that ships keep creating attack orders with list growing to some crazy several pages size...

[7ate9tin11s]

Also I've noticed that ships keep creating attack orders with list growing to some crazy several pages size...

Huh, I just assumed that signals overrode the current orders like in x3...if they are not and just queuing then I need to find a way to cancel orders so battles are more dynamic

[reanor]

Also I've noticed that ships keep creating attack orders with list growing to some crazy several pages size...

Huh, I just assumed that signals overrode the current orders like in x3...if they are not and just queuing then I need to find a way to cancel orders so battles are more dynamic

Yeah, I had two capitals in Xenon sector, there was 3 Xenon Ks and one of the capitals kept switching between the three Xenon ships creating more and more Attack orders. Not sure why only one, the other my capital had 5 attack orders, but more were not queuing up on that one. I was switching external view between the ships when I noticed in the map that there are too many lines representing orders. I checked the ship orders and went . I'll remove the Aggressive AI for now, will be trying the FOCW for a while.

[shahman76]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered but, OOS I tell my ships to destroy something, they do so quite efficiently. But when I'm joyriding in my Nemesis and ask it to attach a khaak or xenon ship, it just flies around the target really acrobatically, but none of its weapons or turrets are firing. Is there something i should have turned on? I checked the extensions folder and apart from the debug mods, everything is turned on. What do I need to do?

[reanor]

Also I've noticed that ships keep creating attack orders with list growing to some crazy several pages size...

Huh, I just assumed that signals overrode the current orders like in x3...if they are not and just queuing then I need to find a way to cancel orders so battles are more dynamic

Yeah, I had two capitals in Xenon sector, there was 3 Xenon Ks and one of the capitals kept switching between the three Xenon ships creating more and more Attack orders. Not sure why only one, the other my capital had 5 attack orders, but more were not queuing up on that one. I was switching external view between the ships when I noticed in the map that there are too many lines representing orders. I checked the ship orders and went . I'll remove the Aggressive AI for now, will be trying the FOCW for a while.

Just wanted to verify quick that after removing Aggressive AI mod, then attack order queuing up issue stopped.

[geneherr]

Is the AI actually more aggressive? It seems to be a misleading mod name

[Requiemfang]

Is the AI actually more aggressive? It seems to be a misleading mod name

Oh trust me it is, instead of fights turning into complete furballs ships that are under command in wings/fleets will focus fire to kill things. Piss off a station and it will send out it's drones to attack en-mass and said drones and any friendly ships towards the stations will hunt you to the ends of the sector, some even follow you if you leave the sector. There are a few instances where the AI acts funny but overall this mod makes the AI actually much better than what we got in vanilla.

[7ate9tin11s]

So all of my stumbling about has found a lot of information about the structure and design of the vanilla Egosoft AI, at this point I am finding that the core design of the combat AI itself does not meet my vision and needs. Therefore, I am going to cease updating this mod which tries to address and extend capabilities in the vanilla AI. This means that when 1.6 comes out the mod will no longer work due to Egosoft making heavy changes to their own AI scripts rendering any diff files invalid.

I have began a complete bottom up rewrite of the AI from the interrupt level on up to the attack orders and may release it at some point. For now though I hope Egosoft's AI updates in 1.6 are decent and make for a playable game.

If someone would like to take over updating and altering this script please PM me and I can assign control of the Nexus page over. If I do not hear back by the time 1.6 is released I will delete the Nexus page.

Thank you,

-7ate

[Thecrippler]

So all of my stumbling about has found a lot of information about the structure and design of the vanilla Egosoft AI, at this point I am finding that the core design of the combat AI itself does not meet my vision and needs. Therefore, I am going to cease updating this mod which tries to address and extend capabilities in the vanilla AI. This means that when 1.6 comes out the mod will no longer work due to Egosoft making heavy changes to their own AI scripts rendering any diff files invalid.

I have began a complete bottom up rewrite of the AI from the interrupt level on up to the attack orders and may release it at some point. For now though I hope Egosoft's AI updates in 1.6 are decent and make for a playable game.

If someone would like to take over updating and altering this script please PM me and I can assign control of the Nexus page over. If I do not hear back by the time 1.6 is released I will delete the Nexus page.

Thank you,

-7ate

this is for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLTVhnISHLU It's Been A Damn Good Ride i hope you will find something new to mod the game and ty for your amazing talent with the mod

[Warnoise]

Thank you for your amazing work. Hopefully we see more of your brilliant mods in the future.

[verdeboy2k]

Thanks for this mod as it is! And I hope your rewrite goes well, this game needs something like the MARS mod from X3, and this is the closest I've seen to it. And I hope 1.6 does make the vanilla AI non-useless as your turret scripts are what makes the game playable for me.

[ajeffco]

Thanks for this mod as it is! And I hope your rewrite goes well, this game needs something like the MARS mod from X3, and this is the closest I've seen to it. And I hope 1.6 does make the vanilla AI non-useless as your turret scripts are what makes the game playable for me.

MARS was such a great mod... Hope there's an equivalent in this game.

@7ate9tin11s, thanks for the time of making this mod.