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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 19:32    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I'm pretty surprised that no has linked to the video showing Mr Stewart announcing the return of Pickard.

Also just for fun.


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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 19:40    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

felter skelter:
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Also just for fun.


Rolling on the floor laughing Okay that's going out with my Christmas emails this year for sure!


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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Antilogic wrote:
Correct DSC is set some time before the timeline split, as is Enterprise. Both are valid events for both timelines.


Actually... No. Discovery is set 10 years prior to TOS, true. But the start of the new movies - And when the split occurs, is 25 years or so earlier, with the birth of Kirk.

Thus, as the producers have said from the beginning, Discovery is set in the 'original' universe.

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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Golden_Gonads wrote:

Thus, as the producers have said from the beginning, Discovery is set in the 'original' universe.


Which still means they have to explain why the spore drive doesn't appear to exist in any later Trek series.

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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 22:03    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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Which still means they have to explain why the spore drive doesn't appear to exist in any later Trek series.


The same reason they don't use the ships phasers to do a wide-beam stun against an entire planet (or city at least) as they did in TOS - The plot didn't call for it.

Alternatively, the spore network will be destroyed by the end of the show.

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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 22:21    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Wait a sec...

Data is "dead?" "Spore Drive?"

I guess I've been out of the Star Trek loop for awhile. I watched the Nemesis movie... kind of. I guess that's why I missed that bit with Data dying in it? Because the movie was crap and I got tired of paying attention to it? Probably.

Why, exactly, do we need or want a new offering starring the Picard character? What are they going to explore that warrants that level of attention?

Rumors are it's because Stewart wants to work with Tarrantino:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/feature/a863375/star-trek-picard-new-patrick-stewart/

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..."One of my dreams is to work with Tarantino. I admire his work so much, and to be in a Tarantino film would give me so much satisfaction. So, if he is going to direct something to do with Star Trek and there was the possibility of dear old Jean-Luc showing up again and doing that for Mr Tarantino, I would embrace it," Stewart said in 2017...


Tarrantino's Start Trek: https://www.businessinsider.com/quentin-tarantinos-star-trek-movie-everything-we-know-2017-12

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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 22:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Morkonan wrote:
"Spore Drive?"


The Spore Drive uses a galaxy-wide network of mushroom spores to teleport instantaneously around. For such a ludicrous idea, it works fairly well.


... Shrooms man... Shrooms...

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PostPosted: Thu, 9. Aug 18, 22:41    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Golden_Gonads wrote:
Morkonan wrote:
"Spore Drive?"


The Spore Drive uses a galaxy-wide network of mushroom spores to teleport instantaneously around. For such a ludicrous idea, it works fairly well.


... Shrooms man... Shrooms...


Is that like the Hammerhead Drive?

If so, it sounds much less painful...

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 10:52    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

The idea is utterly ridiculous. The effects and scripting sell the ridiculous idea somewhat, on their good days. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Meh. amateurs, What you need is sub-meson brain, an atomic vector plotter and a really hot cup of tea.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 20:55    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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Meh. amateurs, What you need is sub-meson brain, an atomic vector plotter and a really hot cup of tea.


That only gets you plain old finite improbability, though--you need infinite improbability to make a drive. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Golden_Gonads wrote:
Morkonan wrote:
"Spore Drive?"


The Spore Drive uses a galaxy-wide network of mushroom spores to teleport instantaneously around. For such a ludicrous idea, it works fairly well.

... Shrooms man... Shrooms...


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Usenko wrote:
The idea is utterly ridiculous. The effects and scripting sell the ridiculous idea somewhat, on their good days. Smile


HOLY @$T@$!

I thought you guys were kidding! Seriously - I had no knowledge of the "Spore Drive" and thought Golden_Gonads description was a "play on words." Then, with Usenko's post, I was prompted to go look it up...

THIS is the best they could come up with?

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PostPosted: Sat, 11. Aug 18, 03:13    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

It's not just the Spore Drive that makes me think Discovery is a third universe separate from the prime timeline and from reboot. There's the whole "Spock has a fully human adopted sister who's never been mentioned before" as well, plus the designs of the ships are not quite TOS style and not quite reboot style.

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PostPosted: Sat, 11. Aug 18, 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

pjknibbs wrote:
...There's the whole "Spock has a fully human adopted sister who's never been mentioned before" as well...


WAT?

What possible purpose does that serve?

"The Enemy was diminished with the destruction of The One Ring and wandered the wastes as nothing more than a raging spirit.

But now, his brother has come and he's planning to steal all the gold from the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States!"

The Lord of the Rings with a Vengeance in theaters, now!"


^--- This. I hate this. I hate it when they screw around with a good story that has lasted generations and great characters people have grown up with just so they can make a bit of cash for a few months.

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..plus the designs of the ships are not quite TOS style and not quite reboot style.


Aerodynamics... in space? I hadn't seen the "Discovery" so took a look at it. Interesting ship design, I guess. Not quite sure "why" it has some of those features... Coolness factor, I guess. But, it ain't the beautiful simplicity of a classic TOS ship, that's for sure. It's too darn "busy." It looks like it's moving, standing still. I guess that's what they were going for, but a TOS Star Fleet Constitution class is prettier to me. (I am admittedly biased.)

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PostPosted: Sun, 12. Aug 18, 02:04    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

When Discovery first came out I was sad because I would not be able to see it.

The more I hear about it the more I feel had a narrow escape.

There's a theory doing the rounds on the Youtube that the reason Discovery is so awful has something to do with a copyright problem. Something to do with one group having the rights to the characters and another imagery. This is apparently why it looks trash. If it looked like the original it would break copyright.

Of course this theory is on Youtube so it might well be trash.

For me the best looking ships are the Enterprise A and the E. A is simply sleeker than the original and the square nacelles look better than the old round ones. The Sovereign looks as if it was designed to kick the Borg back into the Delta Quadrant.

I never liked the Galaxy class.

* It was fat and ugly.
* Saucer separation was a serious design flaw. If you can't kick butt in your proper configuration then stay in Spacedock.
* Kids on a starship. No. Just No. Captain Picard was right to hate the idea.
* It took way too long to fire its main weapon. By the time that light has gone round the saucer section the bad guys will have dodged it.

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