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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 04:31    Post subject: Highways = I wont be playing Reply with quote Print

Just read about the inclusion of highways in x4 and I'm crushed. Ive bought some of your games twice just to support the development of x4. What a waste.

Its really unfortunate that you have taken the advice of forum warriors. I was having too much fun in x3 and AP with mods to spend much time here.

So, farewell to you Egosoft. I will delete your game and company from my radar for a few years. Maybe you will be alive to get this right next time......

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 04:33    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Neat.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 05:58    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Then you also read the part where highways wont be everywhere? Why not wait for the game to come out, watch a couple of YouTube/Twitch videos and then decide if the game is worth it or not?

I'm not real happy about jumpdrives not being included and most of their excuses as to why they wont be included are garbage. But I can understand why they'd be excluded for tactical and game plot reasons even if it will hurt certain play styles. But even with highways and no jumpdrives, I'm still about 99% certain I'll be buying X4. Although after XR, I'll take my own advice about watching videos for a week or two before purchasing.



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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 06:27    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I sterted again playing in Xrebirth and the highways are such nightmare in Sectors like devries for example. Especially Gushing Spring where I have sometimes to make the whole loop again to reach a zone that is around 200km from me.

While i understand highways design is not really good in xrebirth, they might implement it in a better way in X4.

I think it is too harsh of a judgement to dismiss X4 just because there are highways.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 08:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

"Hey, I don't know what the game looks like just yet, but I'll hate it anyways because of 1 word!"

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 08:43    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

It's already been told that in X4 highways will look like ones in Home of Light - one straight line with main activity around it, buth there will be a bunch of empty space far from highways. Also, only core sectors will have highways.
Scrap such a complex game like X4 because of such a minor detail... For me, it's wery strange. Like if you won't buy a lovely house, because you don't like a one single brick.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Seriously? Another thread about how highways?

You guys know there's another one like 15 threads down the main page, right?
It's right there, and still pretty warm!


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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 15:19    Post subject: Re: Highways = I wont be playing Reply with quote Print

vexter wrote:

Its really unfortunate that you have taken the advice of forum warriors. I was having too much fun in x3 and AP with mods to spend much time here.


The funny part is, I only see a minority of vocal people who defended the highways, most of us dislike it (probably).

But anyway, you are not a meaningful customer. You have bought some X games twice and expected what? That Egosoft will magically read into your mind and bend an entire game's design to your liking?

That's kind of an interesting outlook on consumerism. However, Egosoft did listen to your secret wish - highways will be entirely optional and they reduced their numbers and twists. You will get a travel mode, which is basically highway speed without highways. You will get SETA to speed up your journeys. You will also get your usual afterburner booster, and to top it all, you will get a Transporter system that will be able to teleport you to any of your ship.

The problem is, you have decided that highways are the spawn of the devil, even made a separate thread about your HUGE disappointment, and now here we are. ES is probably better off without you.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 16:08    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

The travel drive is not as fast as a highway, but should be sufficient in combination with seta to get the job done.

If you dont like highways, you dont have to use them. Its much less off putting as in XR, where you always had a stop and go feeling because you could only use the boosters (and wait til they were recharged).
Now you can just start the travel mode and cruise along the space (which you have to do anyways in many regions) and cover distance that way.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 16:28    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

VolusRus wrote:
It's already been told that in X4 highways will look like ones in Home of Light - one straight line with main activity around it, buth there will be a bunch of empty space far from highways. Also, only core sectors will have highways.
Scrap such a complex game like X4 because of such a minor detail... For me, it's wery strange. Like if you won't buy a lovely house, because you don't like a one single brick.



Sadly they don't care about that type of logic. One feature they don't like, it's stomp their feet and hold their breath time.

There is a ton of things about X3 and X:Rebirth that I personally didn't like.. But I still loved both titles.
I feel like this is stomp feet behaviour, doesn't help in discussion.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 17:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

spankahontis wrote:
I feel like this is stomp feet behaviour, doesn't help in discussion.


One person stomping their foot is a tantrum. 1000 people stamping their feet is a stampede. I suspect that there are a lot of players who strongly disliked highways, and it might behoove Egosoft to make it clear that highways are not nearly as important to the game as in XR, otherwise some of those players may stampede elsewhere, rather than toward X4.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

VolusRus wrote:
Also, only core sectors will have highways.


This is the perfect solution to me. Highways contributes to an... urban feeling, making some parts feeling more civilized than others. Highways in core sectors and none in the outskirts is superb.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 19:05    Post subject: reply Reply with quote Print

All you have to do is wait until the modding community have made X4 a very good game by taking out the highways and putting in a jump drive, problem sorted.

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 20:19    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote Print

DAG368 wrote:
All you have to do is wait until the modding community have made X4 a very good game by taking out the highways and putting in a jump drive, problem sorted.


Who needs mods when you can just open an excel spreadsheet while the starfield screensaver runs in the background?

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PostPosted: Fri, 10. Aug 18, 21:14    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote Print

DAG368 wrote:
All you have to do is wait until the modding community have made X4 a very good game by taking out the highways and putting in a jump drive, problem sorted.


Actually modding will give you an even better game than that by letting you take out highways and not ad JD.

With modding being be offered thru steam( I can finally mod) this makes this version of X for me the most exciting Potential wise version of X I will ever play

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