id be guessing those articles were written by people who havnt set foot here in the last 30 years or more. Noone gives a damn about religion anymore other than the 5% of nutjobs with nothing better to do than hang out with thier bully boy mates down the pub every night spending the child benefit.
You do know a 'knee-capping' is just getting shot in the knee? not very serious as a punishment. Noone would go on the run over it. People do like to bulls*it about why they got kicked out and usually its for being a pedo or a heroin dealer from down south.
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devilofbelfast
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the four most important things iv'e found out,
1, your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.
2, dont argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experiance.
3, if gods watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining,
4, Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
1, your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.
2, dont argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experiance.
3, if gods watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining,
4, Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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Alan Phipps
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"just getting shot in the knee? not very serious as a punishment." Well having had to deal with those afflicted by this (usually shot through and from immediately behind the knee joint), I'd certainly be wary if I thought it likely to happen to me. Still that's off topic.
I do agree that religion as a cause for the violence over there was often more a badge to be worn or to hide behind when the actual intentions were profit-making criminality of protection rackets, illegal drugs, drinking and gambling or just the buzz of gang membership, etc. There were the well-protected leaders and enablers and then there were the mainly expendable 'soldier' class to do the risky and nasty stuff to help fly the relevant flag.
Why is this still relevant now? Well history and mutual distrust are still the main reasons why power-sharing is a fragile patina over an intransient and deep-rooted blame culture. Some in whichever side does not get what they want in any reunification referendum would probably quickly resort back to non-democratic means of expressing their distaste at the result.
Could that situation be managed by the authorities (again)? Probably in the long term, but it would most likely be ugly and very damaging in the short and medium term, in my opinion at least.
I do agree that religion as a cause for the violence over there was often more a badge to be worn or to hide behind when the actual intentions were profit-making criminality of protection rackets, illegal drugs, drinking and gambling or just the buzz of gang membership, etc. There were the well-protected leaders and enablers and then there were the mainly expendable 'soldier' class to do the risky and nasty stuff to help fly the relevant flag.
Why is this still relevant now? Well history and mutual distrust are still the main reasons why power-sharing is a fragile patina over an intransient and deep-rooted blame culture. Some in whichever side does not get what they want in any reunification referendum would probably quickly resort back to non-democratic means of expressing their distaste at the result.
Could that situation be managed by the authorities (again)? Probably in the long term, but it would most likely be ugly and very damaging in the short and medium term, in my opinion at least.
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Nothing wrong with that. I just don't see why those who aren't Irish should have any say in what happens in Ireland with regards to Northern Ireland and Eire though. If you've got citizenship, then you're part of those who I'd consider as having a sayRegisterMe wrote:Well Chips, having an Irish mother, and an English father, I disagree with you.
But I'm not Irish, and therefore not going to tell either part what they should do. It's for "them" (the Irish) to resolve whether they unify or not, not me or other outsiders. Telling other countries what to do has never really worked out well.
That is what my post is about.
Evidently someone who has never experienced long term pain, or actually looked into it. The knee is a complex structure, putting a bullet through it means at a minumum pain for the rest of your life, certainly difficulty walking.pjknibbs wrote:Agonising pain and being crippled for life isn't a serious punishment in your book? I dread to imagine what you *would* consider serious, in that case!devilofbelfast wrote: You do know a 'knee-capping' is just getting shot in the knee? not very serious as a punishment.
It's not like those Hollywood 'oh, it's ok, the bullet went through the shoulder type things.' (I hate those).
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. ... Niccolò Machiavelli
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greypanther
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I do not want to live in your world really and would like to have as much distance between your world and mine, as possible. Shame we just cannot saw off Northern Ireland and set it adrift. It has been nothing but a problem as long as I have been alive.devilofbelfast wrote:You do know a 'knee-capping' is just getting shot in the knee? not very serious as a punishment. Noone would go on the run over it.
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devilofbelfast
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Having been shot more than once, i can tell yous that my back is more painful than any gunshot wound. (did damage being a pallbearer when i was a teen)
You guys seem to be under the very much mistaken impression that paramilitirism is a northern irish thing, i can assure you there are active english, welsh and scottish paramilitary groups with more members each than ever existed in northern ireland with all groups combined. Cornish Liberation Front, Yorkshire Liberation front, Welsh Liberation Front, and those are just three of the biggest with in excess of two million members each.
What would 'sawing off Northern Ireland' accomplish when you've at least ten times more active terrorists in your country than mine? Not to mention all those isis blokes your government seems detirmened to import?
You guys seem to be under the very much mistaken impression that paramilitirism is a northern irish thing, i can assure you there are active english, welsh and scottish paramilitary groups with more members each than ever existed in northern ireland with all groups combined. Cornish Liberation Front, Yorkshire Liberation front, Welsh Liberation Front, and those are just three of the biggest with in excess of two million members each.
What would 'sawing off Northern Ireland' accomplish when you've at least ten times more active terrorists in your country than mine? Not to mention all those isis blokes your government seems detirmened to import?
the four most important things iv'e found out,
1, your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.
2, dont argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experiance.
3, if gods watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining,
4, Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
1, your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.
2, dont argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experiance.
3, if gods watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining,
4, Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
I looked into these groups, I see no evidence of anything of the scale you suggest. Anyway, any comparison with the Troubles is plainly ridiculous, seeing as none of them are routinely blowing people up, nor are they funded / provided with military equipment by sympathisers in the USA.devilofbelfast wrote:You guys seem to be under the very much mistaken impression that paramilitirism is a northern irish thing, i can assure you there are active english, welsh and scottish paramilitary groups with more members each than ever existed in northern ireland with all groups combined. Cornish Liberation Front, Yorkshire Liberation front, Welsh Liberation Front, and those are just three of the biggest with in excess of two million members each.
As far as I can see the largest scale terrorist action taken by such a group is the arson of a restaurant.
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I'm sorry, but your statement makes as much sense as my claiming that my brain injury makes me an expert in all brain trauma cases. It's nonsensicle and I wouldn't do it. Having seen some of them it would be an insult for me to try.devilofbelfast wrote:Having been shot more than once, i can tell yous that my back is more painful than any gunshot wound. (did damage being a pallbearer when i was a teen)
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. ... Niccolò Machiavelli