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Just coming back to this and all I have to say is wow. Looks incredible and I’m doing a vagrant start to get my legs back. I really like the shipyard allowing repairs and have assembled a ragtag group of ships. I just set up three sanctuaries and realized you need perks to do anything useful. What would you recommend for your first few perks? Priority will be station building factories and then ships in another sector and equipment in the third. From a perks standpoint, those are precious and so I want to get them right.
Also, is there a way to enable ocv in the vagrant start? I wanted some time to get used to new changes, but would be nice to turn them on if things get too quiet.
Also, is there a way to enable ocv in the vagrant start? I wanted some time to get used to new changes, but would be nice to turn them on if things get too quiet.
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No you have to start a new game. Think of your first play through as a tutorialThe Cuban Nightmare wrote:Just coming back to this and all I have to say is wow. Looks incredible and I’m doing a vagrant start to get my legs back. I really like the shipyard allowing repairs and have assembled a ragtag group of ships. I just set up three sanctuaries and realized you need perks to do anything useful. What would you recommend for your first few perks? Priority will be station building factories and then ships in another sector and equipment in the third. From a perks standpoint, those are precious and so I want to get them right.
Also, is there a way to enable ocv in the vagrant start? I wanted some time to get used to new changes, but would be nice to turn them on if things get too quiet.
[EDIT] Seriously, the way people do it is to delay acquiring a 2nd Sanctuary until 24 hours have passed. The OCV would not attack you when the threat level is below 2, so that scheme put the first OCV attack around 1d 18h+4h. (24+18h for warning message, 24+22h for actual attack).
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In LU it's not so critical, In Mayhem there are much more stations a player have. And I don't want to discredit anybody. just a big trash can full of unfindable data - this phrase saying that I think it is important issue, not "Panda, how dare you..."VincentTH wrote:To the Panda's credit, that's in LU too!!!!Darkternal wrote:Personal Console->Global ship set homebase station list is not sorted - just a big trash can full of unfindable data.
1st Sanctuary: Ship hangar, ship specialization, QJE, max population (some time later) - to build cargo ships.The Cuban Nightmare wrote:Just coming back to this and all I have to say is wow. Looks incredible and I’m doing a vagrant start to get my legs back. I really like the shipyard allowing repairs and have assembled a ragtag group of ships. I just set up three sanctuaries and realized you need perks to do anything useful. What would you recommend for your first few perks? Priority will be station building factories and then ships in another sector and equipment in the third. From a perks standpoint, those are precious and so I want to get them right.
Also, is there a way to enable ocv in the vagrant start? I wanted some time to get used to new changes, but would be nice to turn them on if things get too quiet.
2nd Sanctuary: Laser, Laser specialization, no food, max population - to provide money flow.
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You only get 4 perks per station, unless you start a permanent war with 1-2 races, which bumps your total number of perks to 5 or 6.
You can re-roll your perks at a cost of bumping up your empire-wide threat level, which makes the OCV waves harder.
1st: (USO) Ship hangar (to build, repair and upgrade ships), Ship specialization (faster ship building), extra engine tuning (faster ships), max population (for faster building @ level 9)
2nd: (USB in my game): Laser Manufacturing, laser specialization, max population (level 9).
3rd is for shields: Shield manufacturing, Shield Specialization, Max Population (level 9).
Maybe a sector for bait 1, bait 2, (maybe free OWP, free Research station).
If you are a big fan of missiles, a sector for missiles would be good.
That should get you started.
You only get 4 perks per station, unless you start a permanent war with 1-2 races, which bumps your total number of perks to 5 or 6.
You can re-roll your perks at a cost of bumping up your empire-wide threat level, which makes the OCV waves harder.
1st: (USO) Ship hangar (to build, repair and upgrade ships), Ship specialization (faster ship building), extra engine tuning (faster ships), max population (for faster building @ level 9)
2nd: (USB in my game): Laser Manufacturing, laser specialization, max population (level 9).
3rd is for shields: Shield manufacturing, Shield Specialization, Max Population (level 9).
Maybe a sector for bait 1, bait 2, (maybe free OWP, free Research station).
If you are a big fan of missiles, a sector for missiles would be good.
That should get you started.
Is there a better way than this?
https://puu.sh/zmPlE/02e70a196a.jpg
Apart from that i have 2 couriers, a TS+ for energy cells and a TS to gather shields and lasers produced by other sanctuaries with a HUGE courier queue (like 40 lines).
Also from 4 to 6 DAs for other Sanctuaries, and 1 DA per MLCC dock to ferry energy cells.
Any suggestions on how to improve it?
I'd like to hear or see what other people have.
P.S. Is there a Discord for Mayhem players? Or they'd rather play Mayhem all the time? (Makes sense)
https://puu.sh/zmPlE/02e70a196a.jpg
Apart from that i have 2 couriers, a TS+ for energy cells and a TS to gather shields and lasers produced by other sanctuaries with a HUGE courier queue (like 40 lines).
Also from 4 to 6 DAs for other Sanctuaries, and 1 DA per MLCC dock to ferry energy cells.
Any suggestions on how to improve it?
I'd like to hear or see what other people have.
P.S. Is there a Discord for Mayhem players? Or they'd rather play Mayhem all the time? (Makes sense)
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I don't usually bother automating my Crystal sales. Especially not the Black one. Just occasionally fill up a TS with all random Crystal/Minerals and Nividium and send it to a Mining Outpost.deztar wrote:Is there a better way than this?
https://puu.sh/zmPlE/02e70a196a.jpg
Apart from that i have 2 couriers, a TS+ for energy cells and a TS to gather shields and lasers produced by other sanctuaries with a HUGE courier queue (like 40 lines).
Also from 4 to 6 DAs for other Sanctuaries, and 1 DA per MLCC dock to ferry energy cells.
Any suggestions on how to improve it?
I'd like to hear or see what other people have.
P.S. Is there a Discord for Mayhem players? Or they'd rather play Mayhem all the time? (Makes sense)
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Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!Fureimuu wrote:Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.VincentTH wrote:Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!Fureimuu wrote:Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
A ship being robust means it is sturdy, and so a low robustness means it takes more to maintain. It makes sense that your other ships with higher robustness would be cheaper, while the ship with very low robustness would be the most expensive. 60k credits is really not much and is easy to keep up even with a large fleet of them.Fureimuu wrote:60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.VincentTH wrote:Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!Fureimuu wrote:Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
So all that time I was sure that robustness stands for "expensiveness" LMAO. I'll be honest with you, I never even looked that word up in a dictionary, my mistake. But still, 60K is WAY TOO MUCH!Kingtrin wrote:A ship being robust means it is sturdy, and so a low robustness means it takes more to maintain. It makes sense that your other ships with higher robustness would be cheaper, while the ship with very low robustness would be the most expensive. 60k credits is really not much and is easy to keep up even with a large fleet of them.Fureimuu wrote:60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.VincentTH wrote:Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!Fureimuu wrote:Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.
https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru
It was the Sirokos, the best M6 IMHO, therefore the high maintenance, coupled with the low robustness.Shuulo wrote:Skiron is powerful and expensive corvette. I don't see a problem with 60k if it has low robustness. If its too much for you just use different corvette, that is why robustness is random every game - to make every playthrough even more unique!