Ketraar wrote:kohlrak wrote:Precisely, so if the left wants to raise the minimum wage, the left merely have to close the borders.
Not only its inaccurate, since these companies would not be able to compete paying fair salaries, but its insulting that you think anyone with two brain cells would fall for your bait.
If it's inaccurate, how is it inaccurate? The problem with the companies not being able to compete while paying fair wages has everything to do with taxes and regulation. See, the propaganda is all about making you think it's "us the people" vs "them the filthy rich companies." The truth is, you have companies that are being taxed and regulated by the ultra-rich 1%, that claims that raising taxes will hurt the ultra-rich companies, that are not actually ultra-rich. The ultra-rich are the politicians and the stock gamers that are not only playing the game of the system, but are also in charge of the rules. That's how they stay on top. Until you take their rules from them, every time you try to "tax the ultra-rich" you're merely helping them embed themselves even more. The filthy rich don't deal in diapers, train wheels, and other commodities that everyone sees as the big cheese. The filthy rich deal in weapons, armies, market manipulation, resource acquisition, government overthrowing, etc. And it doesn't have to be some illuminati BS theory: we actually willingly watch these people talk out of their rear ends. If you want to level the playing field, quit letting the refarees play the game.
we have legitimate fears of threat vectors from the middle-east through our southern border.
The reason for your fears are unfounded and misplaced. As mentioned many times you would be wise to leave the US if threat "vectors" are your concern. Again, feel free to kid yourself with misleading fallacies if that makes you sleep better, but avoid trying to drag others into your delusion.
You don't even know my reason, yet they are unfounded and misplaced? And why would it be wise to leave the US, when it isn't even an option for me or my loved ones? It makes more sense to fix the problem than run away from it. Where could I go that doesn't have these threat vectors? Unsafe china? Japan, which is just waiting to be torn into the moment the US has big enough problems? Russia seems like the only semi-safe candidate, which has plenty of problems of it's own. The world isn't a safe place by any stretch of imagination, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve that.
Anyone that starts sentences with "the left" (or the right, or similar) I wont take seriously, it means nothing other then "them", which is an indication of the problem with today's US politics (not exclusively), Sith mentality I say.
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Ketraar
I'll agree. But it's so polarized, it's like saying you won't take anyone seriously in a conversation about short people that starts a sentence with "women." There are people in this thread alone who are clearly so polar you can predict what they'd say on an issue. Just because there are independent thinkers doesn't mean that the labels aren't worth applying for the grand majority, any less than saying that because of a few tall women doesn't mean you can't apply the label "short" to women (nothing against women, but they're much shorter on average).