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Cityjohn





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PostPosted: Sat, 19. Apr 14, 22:55    Post subject: Ice mine missing Reply with quote Print

I don't wish to be bore or anything but could the Terran Ice Mining Facility be added under minerals?
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There's a huge asteroid in Asteroid belt that just begs for a massive water complex
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but only the water purification facility's are in the complex calculator.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30. Aug 15, 01:17    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I really love your calculator, used it many times when I get bored and start playing X3 TC/AP.. but this game is getting old and I am afraid that at some point great tools like this one will disappear.

Is there any offline version available or is there any Backup URL just in case?

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PostPosted: Sun, 30. Aug 15, 02:54    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

There's Xadrian Complex Calculator which I use all the time, there's no "installation" required (this is still an option though) but you will need Java Runtime Environment installed.


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PostPosted: Wed, 8. Jun 16, 11:04    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

The links are all broken currently; any chance of getting a working version online?

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PostPosted: Wed, 8. Jun 16, 11:48    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

In a different topic OzWraith found out that the servers are still there it's just the domain that expired.

In this post OzWraith wrote:
I am also completely lost without the Complex Calculator.

I've sent the author (em3e3) a PM. I'm not sure whether he checks the forum any more, though. He hasn't made a post in over 2 years. That isn't saying too much, I also mostly lurk. But he has a post count over 2,000+ and then - nothing.

I do have good news for you though: Only the domain has expired. The actual server is still there and you can still use the complex calculator!

http://66.39.35.164/x3/x3tcocc.html - X3:TC calculator
http://66.39.35.164/x3/x3apocc.html - X3:AP calculator

And if you add a line in your hosts file for this IP to altanetworks.com, everything will work as it always has. If you need help doing this, let me know whether you are Windows/Mac and I'll give you the instructions.


Edit: I added the server links to the first post now.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5. Mar 17, 23:56    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

They were working until a couple days ago. Completely dead now. Sad

This one still works for TC, not sure how smart it is to use for AP: http://grangegame.co.uk/x3tcocc.html

Nothing for AP that I can find though.

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PostPosted: Mon, 6. Mar 17, 00:45    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

There's a working off-line one here.

http://kayahr.github.io/xadrian/

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PostPosted: Tue, 22. Aug 17, 05:33    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

(sorry for the necropost, but it's important)

There is a website which has saved me many times whenever i had to find back a website or an address which was no longer available, due to domain expirations. Not many people know that, probably, and that is a pity.

THE WAYBACK MACHINE - Internet Archives !

It is a website that takes snapshot of a website (based on user interactions i think) in different time periods.

For our specific case, the complex calculators, i took a couple valid and working old versions of both urls at altanetwork (expired):

X3 Albion Prelude : https://web.archive.org/web/20150301151404/http://www.altanetworks.com:80/x3/x3apocc.html

X3 Terran Conflict : https://web.archive.org/web/20160103202036/http://www.altanetworks.com/x3/x3tcocc.html

Enjoy the wayback machine !


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PostPosted: Mon, 28. Aug 17, 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

This is great news. The reason the Wayback Machine didn't work prior is because altanetworks.com had a robots.txt file that was instructing the Wayback Machine not to allow any archives to be displayed.

The domain appears to have changed ownership and now tries to install malware.

I have taken this excellent archived version, stripped out all wayback machine code and archive.org versions of files, and uploaded it to the mirror repository at Poisoned Paranid.

Hereafter a permanent mirror will be available at https://poisonedparanid.com/storage/mirrors/x3apocc/ and I may see about adding a shorter URL as well.

The TC version is also available at https://poisonedparanid.com/storage/mirrors/x3tcocc/

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PostPosted: Thu, 11. Jan 18, 20:55    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

bluesoulsez wrote:
This is great news. The reason the Wayback Machine didn't work prior is because altanetworks.com had a robots.txt file that was instructing the Wayback Machine not to allow any archives to be displayed.

The domain appears to have changed ownership and now tries to install malware.

I have taken this excellent archived version, stripped out all wayback machine code and archive.org versions of files, and uploaded it to the mirror repository at Poisoned Paranid.

Hereafter a permanent mirror will be available at https://poisonedparanid.com/storage/mirrors/x3apocc/ and I may see about adding a shorter URL as well.

The TC version is also available at https://poisonedparanid.com/storage/mirrors/x3tcocc/


These don't seem to work. I can put factories in, but no calculations occur.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12. Jan 18, 19:48    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

JDCollie wrote:
These don't seem to work. I can put factories in, but no calculations occur.


It looks like there is a js folder that didn't get mirrored.

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PostPosted: Fri, 12. Jan 18, 20:36    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

It's probably an attempt to notify bluesoulsez so it can get fixed, but they haven't posted since September and only made 9 posts anyway.

In the meantime, for actual complex calculation, doing a "Webpage, Complete" save of the web.archive.org version works, and Xadrian is still an option.

I used to have a webserver, but terminated that account due to disuse quite a while ago. However, as a software developer, it probably wouldn't be that hard for me to clean up the version I saved locally and host it with github, bitbucket, or dropbox. I'll add that to my To Do list to see what's feasible there.

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PostPosted: Sun, 14. Jan 18, 14:34    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

lyonhaert wrote:
However, as a software developer, it probably wouldn't be that hard for me to clean up the version I saved locally and host it with github, bitbucket, or dropbox. I'll add that to my To Do list to see what's feasible there.

Pleased to hear that. Thx in advance!


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PostPosted: Tue, 30. Jan 18, 18:21    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I wanted to get a little farther along before putting it up, but that hasn't progressed in at least a week because I've been otherwise occupied. I'll post again when I make further updates.

https://joelbfant.bitbucket.io/x3/x3tcocc.html

I also downloaded the files for AP version and will work on cleaning that up and putting it right beside the TC version (this is next on the list).

There appear to be some bugs to fix and improvements I can make. The example links on the right don't include sector selection, so when you load up the "Argon 1 of everything" or "Self-sufficient E-cell Loop" the yield on the SPP is broken, causing "Used" on Crystals and "Produced" on Energy Cells to be NaN. Then you've also got the Ore and Silicon yields set to particular values with no sector reference, so if you pick a sector you have go to the lines for the mines, remember how many, change the size and change it back, put the station counter back to what it was, then pick your yield from the dropdown.

That stuff isn't as much of an issue if you copy the "Permanent URL" with a sector selected and make a bookmark from that to save your complex - though you still don't get drop-downs for asteroid yield upon loading that (but at least the numbers are right).

I also think it's a bit of a half-solution that the asteroid yield drop-downs help you with available yield amounts in that sector (and even how many, sortof), but then doesn't prevent you from setting up 20 large Ore mines with 90-yield in Antigone Memorial when there are only two asteroids with that yield in that sector. Something for me to maybe work on.

Anyway, I just think the example links should be more helpful and not lead someone on a wild goose chase for circumstances that may not exist. The best short-term solution is to update those two example links to have a realistic sector selected for the Ore/Silicon/Sunlight needs. The "Self-sufficient E-cell Loop" can go in Hollow Infinity or Light Water since those I think are the only ones with 60-yield Silicon asteroids. But since all it needs is one Silicon mine with a yield of at least 60, I'm open to other sector suggestions.

Same for the "Argon 1-of-everything" example link. Ore Belt seems like the best sector for as much Ore and Silicon as this needs. The example link uses two 63-yield Ore mines and three 60-yield Silicon mines. This doesn't seem to exist, but Ore Belt at least works with two 64-yield Silicon mines, one 56-yield Silicon mine, the one 51-yield Ore mine, and then three 25-yield Ore mines since there are several of those. Open to sector suggestions here, too.

I have some other improvements in mind, too. A simple one is a "Copy URL" button next to the Permanent URL field, so that's on my list. Some stuff I have in mind might only be done if I decide to rewrite this with react/redux, but I'm open to suggestions there, too. I spend most of my free time playing TC, so we'll get there eventually. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue, 30. Jan 18, 22:55    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

These features like example links are nice to have, but not mandatory for this project. If you're lacking in time just concentrate on the core function for the moment - providing all of the AP stations and all available sun strength values. From where I stand this is 99% of all I ever wanted from that applet.

All other issues are just convenience. I'll enjoy the OCC if they work but I'll do either if they don't... Wink


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