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memeics





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PostPosted: Mon, 17. Jul 17, 20:37    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Nice!

Note that the author of Phanon+ wasn't able to reproduce any of these issues by simply using SETA and waiting long times. You'd have to actually play at regular game speed. But if you did that (got to generation 6 through regular playing) and didn't encounter the stuck issue it definitely makes a strong case that the issue would be fixed because AFAIK it happens with a sufficiently high probability in a full playthrough.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25. Sep 17, 01:01    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

A big thank you Xo3oToC and rw602.

I haven't looked at modding X3 for quite a while now but the whole thing stalling out on the Jumpout script makes sense to me as I do recall it stalling out sometimes during the cleanup script, hence some of the extra rubbish I added to the jumpout script. I've uploaded a version of PhanonPlus with rw602's script changes and Xo3oToC's suggestion for al.Phanon.SetShopList to hopefully prevent that from occurring in future.

Thanks again guys.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2. Oct 17, 22:25    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Thanks for the update Wanabe, good to see you again!


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PostPosted: Thu, 18. Jan 18, 07:30    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I've read largely through both this and the original Phanon threads, and I was curious about two things; one conditional on the other. They are thus: I am aware the original was intended to be it's own standalone, but I'm unsure if this one is capable of that (I am NOT running LitCube at this time.). Furthermore, if it *IS* capable of running separate from Litcube's mod, considering how close this was developed WITH LCU in mind, which would be BETTER to install?

To help, I'm not running any sort of Overhaul mod. Not XRM, not LitCube, or any other kind. Heavily modded, yes, but based on vanilla largely.

Also, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, I've seen a number of issues and self-implemented fixes in both threads. If there's any particular one that seems to consolidate the best, would you mind linking that page number -- that I might peruse it for myself?

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PostPosted: Sat, 7. Apr 18, 22:26    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I welcome the thought of a stronger Phanon Corp, that's why I have installed this mod. But the fact, that all of their ships jump out before even 2 Ocelot M2 can damage an M7M's hull makes fighting against them very unsatisfying since destroying an M2 is impossible as they return with full shields and hull each time. The only ships I can regularly destroy before they jump are M6, TS and TL. All others escape before they recieve hull damage (even form my 2 Ocelots shooting at them at the same time) In fact all I can do is siege their headquarters, having their fleet multiple times jumping in and out which is just unpleasant. Can i somehow change their jumping behavior?

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PostPosted: Mon, 9. Apr 18, 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

You could probably edit the scripts but this is pretty much one of the points of Phanon+, to make them behave more like you would so jump out when they get damaged. You just have to follow them where they jump (use the monitor feature of X3, it follows a ship even if it goes to a sector you have no visibility in). And no, they won't magically replenish missiles and shields, it costs them money to replenish anything so while it may seem like you haven't done any "damage" to them, you actually did, by forcing them to spend money to replenish/repair/etc. Until you are able to assault their HQ directly there isn't much else you can do, other than harassing and bleeding them at every opportunity. It's typical guerrilla warfare.


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