Quick question re: delivery missions

[Geek.Verve]

This is probably a dumb question, but here goes...

Is there a way in-game to see how much cargo space a particular item requires? I've had to abort missions that require that I transport a certain number of items, because I lacked enough cargo space, even though my cargo hold size is well over that number (even with food stuffs). I've tried looking for the items in the encyclopedia, but they're never listed (e.g. luxury food stuffs).

[AleksMain]

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Is there a way in-game to see how much cargo space a particular item requires? I've had to abort missions that require that I transport a certain number of items, because I lacked enough cargo space, even though my cargo hold size is well over that number (even with food stuffs). I've tried looking for the items in the encyclopedia, but they're never listed (e.g. luxury food stuffs).

Here it is:
http://www.x3wiki.com/index.php/Transport_Cargo

Artefact 4 M
Medical Equipment 5 M
Cartography Chips 1 S
Entertainment Chips 1 S
Radioactive Waste 3 XL
Luxury Foodstuffs 2 S

[Bill Huntington]

Geek, here's two ways I use that are simple. I've restarted a number of times. I save the TC/AP universe I have at the end of good game. All of the sectors are clear and all or most of the game's items are listed in the Encyclopedia. I save that in Game Save number 10 and don't save over it. Then in a current game I can reload that Save, check my info, and reload the current game.

Or I just save before the mission, and reload if I can't do it for the reasons you said. I'm here to have a good game. It's single player. Am I cheating myself? No, I enjoying the game quite well, thank you.

[Geek.Verve]

As always, the folks around here are awesome and helpful.

Thanks!

[Cpt.Jericho]

Rule of thump for these missions: Get a Boron Angel with jumpdrive, put some Ecells on it and you can do pretty much any transport cargo mission.

[Imgran]

Rule of thump for these missions: Get a Boron Angel with jumpdrive, put some Ecells on it and you can do pretty much any transport cargo mission.

Or if playing TC, get a Chokaro or a Split Boa and do the same thing. There's pretty much no ship better for quest grinding than a TM.

[Cpt.Jericho]

TMs can't do some Taxi missions. Some passengers want a TS for transport.

[Imgran]

Yep. That's about the only kind of mission a TM can't try its hand at though. Compared to any other ship class in the game there's fewer quests a TM, or the fighters it can carry, can't do than anyone else. TM's are the SUV of the X3 universe, not specialized for any one thing but there isn't a lot they can't do.

Easy enough to spot the TP-only missions, those are the ones that say "passenger transport" somewhere in the mission description, so just have your TP jump in and start docking at the station before accepting those missions and you're good.

[Snafu_X3]

Easy enough to spot the TP-only missions, those are the ones that say "passenger transport" somewhere in the mission description

The description differs occasionally; IIRC there are 3 different "scripts" the client offers; one of which is the same as a plain 'bus' mission:

Watch out for 'luxury transport' requests: this requires a TP for pickup. I can't remember the other one(s) tho

Ofc once picked up most pasengers can be swapped to any other ship with CbLS & transported remotely (altho IIRC there's one non-plot mission type that requires a personal set-down too; I may be wrong with this last)

[RainerPrem]

Rule of thump for these missions: Get a Boron Angel with jumpdrive, put some Ecells on it and you can do pretty much any transport cargo mission.

Or if playing TC, get a Chokaro or a Split Boa and do the same thing. There's pretty much no ship better for quest grinding than a TM.

Well, I beg to differ with the "no ship better" part of your statement. The Springblossom or the overtuned Hyperion do better in that regard.

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Rainer

[Snafu_X3]

Well, I beg to differ with the "no ship better" part of your statement. The Springblossom or the overtuned Hyperion do better in that regard.

Kestrel (with JD + fuel) beats all for single-passenger deliveries! even if out of fuel range it can often refuel + jump or simply speed to its destination safely

Just watch for IS problems (ie collisions), & don't take the mission while flying the Kestrel. Pick the slowest appropriate (ie TP) ship you have nearby, dock & accept the mission, then swap passenger to Kestrel, switch back to <whichever> other ship handy & jump back out. After you've jumped OOS you can safely tell the Kestrel to transport its passenger with little or no micro involved (dependent upon mission type; see above for caveat)

[RainerPrem]

Well, I beg to differ with the "no ship better" part of your statement. The Springblossom or the overtuned Hyperion do better in that regard.

Kestrel (with JD + fuel) beats all for single-passenger deliveries! even if out of fuel range it can often refuel + jump or simply speed to its destination safely

Just watch for IS problems (ie collisions), & don't take the mission while flying the Kestrel. Pick the slowest appropriate (ie TP) ship you have nearby, dock & accept the mission, then swap passenger to Kestrel, switch back to <whichever> other ship handy & jump back out. After you've jumped OOS you can safely tell the Kestrel to transport its passenger with little or no micro involved (dependent upon mission type; see above for caveat)

Hi,

While you are certainly correct concerning passenger missions, we were talking ware delivery earlier. 97 units or radioactive waste don't fit easily into a Kestrel.

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Rainer

[Snafu_X3]

While you are certainly correct concerning passenger missions, we were talking ware delivery earlier.

<facepalm!> I completely lost track of the OOP msg!

However, I rarely do 'deliver ware' missions because of their huuuuge requirements in items & bulk, so that may act as mitigation.. however I apologise for my irrelevant advice!

[RainerPrem]

While you are certainly correct concerning passenger missions, we were talking ware delivery earlier.

<facepalm!> I completely lost track of the OOP msg!

However, I rarely do 'deliver ware' missions because of their huuuuge requirements in items & bulk, so that may act as mitigation.. however I apologise for my irrelevant advice!

Fact is: They are quick, they pay well, and you don't need to accept it in a ship capable of doing the mission. Running around in a fast ship to look for missions you can first order your transport to the first station and then take the mission once it's landed, flit over with your Kestrel, and then switch ships.

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Rainer

[Geek.Verve]

Follow up question: the whole ship juggling mechanic required to complete missions seems a bit contrived. I don't know why missions are treated differently than remote trading, but it is what it is.

Am I correct in my understanding that to execute and complete a mission (thinking of transport and delivery, here), I just need to be in the delivery ship when docking at the final destination? Can I send my remote TP to pick up the passenger, dock it at the destination station and then fly to the destination station in my scout and switch ships, to complete the mission?